do not use your cellphone while driving

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I am paying a lawyer for an objective opinion. I don't think anyone here would be objective, thats why everyone's objective opinion here is free.

A lawyer is never objective - you are paying for them to agree (and support) with your subjective opinion. The fact that you are reluctant to post says it all. To me. That is my subjective opinion.
 

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I drive maximum 100km a month, how many km do you drive? I also have a dashcam in my car, to record everything I do, so yeah I will just go ahead and break as many rules as possible, sounds reasonable to me.

Hang on - I recall you posting a vid where you were dicing a Porsche in your rattling Opel on a highway? In and out of traffic?
 

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1000's... 45000km a year, but not sure why that is relevant.

You said yourself how much faster your car is, than everybody else on the road. I'm just a little concerned by that statement.


I don't feel like writing essays about my interest in cars, but I suppose I will state that I have a faster car than the one that was written off today. I continue to receive extremely generous offers on the car and even received one this week. The point is though, I've never driven it... ever. All my other cars I also haven't driven for extended periods of time.

So if you want to know why kms is relevant, its because I don't drive the cars, and if I'm not driving them, I can't really be breaking that many rules of the road? thats my reasoning, feel free to disagree with why I feel what I said was relevant.
 

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and you don't break the rules of the road? so this is my fault and I should accept the consequences and move on and let bygones be bygones ?
If you have actual evidence that the bloke was on his phone then you have every right to your rant about him. However there are a plethora of other reasons one could end up causing a fender bender, some rather forgivable. Accidents happen. The fact that you're miffed because you don't have decent insurance and are now looking to find any reason under the sun to vilify the bloke shows that you're impervious to looking past your own nose.

You haven't sparked any sort of interesting debate about cellphone use while driving. You've simply pointed out how idiotic making assumptions can be, in my eyes at least. It sucks that you had an accident, yes. Nobody denies that. The other bloke claims you cut him off, and you claim he was on his cellphone, for which you have zero evidence. In weighing up the stories, I'd say both versions are highly likely, Mr I drive very fast cars all of the time therefore I am not to blame because obviously I am supposedly careful.

This was my first sentiment when reading your post. Instead I thought I'd give you a laugh as one tends to have to laugh off minor fender benders in life, whether they be vehicular or other. You can accuse people of trolling all you like, but from where I stand you have a rather poor record of simple deduction and employ a rather narcissistic interpretation of events to make yourself feel better. On that note, you are the Opel guy around here these days, since that epic series of threads. When context arises that allows for some humorous references to that time, you can bet your bottom dollar that it will be brought up. You have a choice to (again) accept that fact and learn to crack your cheek skin with a smile, or perpetually accuse everyone who does so of being a troll. While the choice remains yours to make, there really is a right and wrong attitude to adopt with it...
 

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Hang on - I recall you posting a vid where you were dicing a Porsche in your rattling Opel on a highway? In and out of traffic?

Yes but whats the point, are you saying I must let bygones be bygones and just accept that this guy ramming into me is my fault?
 

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If you have actual evidence that the bloke was on his phone then you have every right to your rant about him. However there are a plethora of other reasons one could end up causing a fender bender, some rather forgivable. Accidents happen. The fact that you're miffed because you don't have decent insurance and are now looking to find any reason under the sun to vilify the bloke shows that you're impervious to looking past your own nose.

You haven't sparked any sort of interesting debate about cellphone use while driving. You've simply pointed out how idiotic making assumptions can be, in my eyes at least. It sucks that you had an accident, yes. Nobody denies that. The other bloke claims you cut him off, and you claim he was on his cellphone, for which you have zero evidence. In weighing up the stories, I'd say both versions are highly likely, Mr I drive very fast cars all of the time therefore I am not to blame because obviously I am supposedly careful.

This was my first sentiment when reading your post. Instead I thought I'd give you a laugh as one tends to have to laugh off minor fender benders in life, whether they be vehicular or other. You can accuse people of trolling all you like, but from where I stand you have a rather poor record of simple deduction and employ a rather narcissistic interpretation of events to make yourself feel better. On that note, you are the Opel guy around here these days, since that epic series of threads. When context arises that allows for some humorous references to that time, you can bet your bottom dollar that it will be brought up. You have a choice to (again) accept that fact and learn to crack your cheek skin with a smile, or perpetually accuse everyone who does so of being a troll. While the choice remains yours to make, there really is a right and wrong attitude to adopt with it...


I have too much that I disagree with in that essay, so you win.
 

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Yes but whats the point, are you saying I must let bygones be bygones and just accept that this guy ramming into me is my fault?

Again, upload the footage. Again, tell us why he is blaming you. I do not understand why you want the members here to support you if you are not willing to give the available information.
 

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I am paying a lawyer for an "objective opinion". I don't think anyone here would be objective, thats why everyone's objective opinion here is free.
This is the most idiotic and financially wasteful thing you could do. There are numerous attorneys who will evaluate your case and take it for free if it qualifies. I can refer you to one if need be. A very good friend of mine.

But the jump from fender bender to I am suing you because I assume you did something and I am not properly insured is a stupid process. You already have a claim against his insurance. If you need an attorney to prove so then hire one at that point...
 

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Wait, this other vehicle was already written off? So an insurance assessment has already been performed? In what would be record time? Is this correct? Why would his insurance communicate this to you, on the same day of the accident? Or is this more fictional exaggeration happening in your mind?
 

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This is the most idiotic and financially wasteful thing you could do. There are numerous attorneys who will evaluate your case and take it for free if it qualifies. I can refer you to one if need be. A very good friend of mine.

But the jump from fender bender to I am suing you because I assume you did something and I am not properly insured is a stupid process. You already have a claim against his insurance. If you need an attorney to prove so then hire one at that point...

Ofcourse I have a claim against his insurance, but they are not just going to co-operate. I've dealt with insurance companies before. I'm not getting a lawyer to prove who is right or who is wrong, I am getting a lawyer so that the process can go a little faster and smoother and that I basically don't have to go through any hassles myself with the insurance companies because of my poor english- and in that process I will probably show him the footage.

I should probably have been more correct in my english, but at this point I haven't been charged for the consultation, Ive merely setup an appointment with the lawyer, so he may decide to do it free of charge but if he wishes to charge me I will atleast pay him for his time- I would have no problem with that.
 

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Ofcourse I have a claim against his insurance, but they are not just going to co-operate. I've dealt with insurance companies before. I'm not getting a lawyer to prove who is right or who is wrong, I am getting a lawyer so that the process can go a little faster and smoother and that I basically don't have to go through any hassles with the insurance companies- and in that process I will probably show him the footage.

I should probably have been more correct in my english, but at this point I haven't been charged for the consultation, Ive merely setup an appointment with the lawyer, so he may decide to do it free of charge but if he wishes to charge me I will atleast pay him for his time- I would have no problem with that.
Cost of a lawyer arguing merits in court or submitting papers based on merit is insanely expensive. Ask me, I am paying for this right now.

Insurance companies don't repudiate claims simply because you don't have a lawyer. There is no such requirement. You should hire one if needed though, and only if the costs are not onerous or can be attached to any ruling (in which case you also open yourself up to risk as it works both ways).

I'm just not convinced that going the ambulance chaser route is necessary yet...
 

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Wait, this other vehicle was already written off? So an insurance assessment has already been performed? In what would be record time? Is this correct? Why would his insurance communicate this to you, on the same day of the accident? Or is this more fictional exaggeration happening in your mind?

It is my experienced view that the car will be written off, the rear has a huge chunk in, the front a huge chunk in. The repair will be atleast 25k from just looking at the labour from a normal spray and the parts that require replacing- and thats just the cosmetic parts including the front and rear bumper, bonnet, fender, rear passenger skin.

I'm under no illusion that the book value of this car is not even close to 30k, I wouldn't be surprised if it was under 20k, so there is a very strong chance it will be written off. Its not only my view the car will be written off, others have seen the damage.

By the way where my cars are stored, that workshop's main income is from insurance work, the owner of that workshop came to see the car and its also his view the car will be written off, this is a guy that works with assessors on a daily basis.
 

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Chunks and chunks and chunks of assumptions. Look, it sucks that you were in an accident. But it also sucks that by the sounds of things you intend making schit up to nail this bloke when 1) It's probably not necessary to even consult a lawyer just yet, and 2) it doesn't appear as if you've give an iota of thought to his perspective just yet. Sounds to me like you're about to embark on a plan to throw good money after bad...
 

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Cost of a lawyer arguing merits in court or submitting papers based on merit is insanely expensive. Ask me, I am paying for this right now.

Insurance companies don't repudiate claims simply because you don't have a lawyer. There is no such requirement. You should hire one if needed though, and only if the costs are not onerous or can be attached to any ruling (in which case you also open yourself up to risk as it works both ways).

I'm just not convinced that going the ambulance chaser route is necessary yet...

I am going to a lawyer to simply get an objective opinion, or as an objective an opinion as I think I can possibly get. The lawyer I am meeting with is not a random lawyer but a friend I respect highly, and if he wishes to charge me I will not hold it against him.

If he feels I don't need a lawyer then I won't get one. At this point I have an opportunity to get a good opinion, are you saying I must not do it and just fight the good battle with the insurance company.
 
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