Do we need a harder lockdown?

Do we need a harder lockdown?

  • Yes Level 5

    Votes: 88 15.9%

  • Yes Level 4

    Votes: 62 11.2%

  • Give Level 3 a chance

    Votes: 158 28.5%

  • Downgrade to Level 2

    Votes: 21 3.8%

  • Downgrade to Level 1

    Votes: 30 5.4%

  • End lockdown

    Votes: 187 33.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 9 1.6%
  • Total voters
    555
Geoff.D said:
Herd Immunity is not a strategy but an outcome that signals when an infection has run its course.
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When a country pursues Herd Immunity as a means to fighting the pandemic, it becomes a strategy, much like UK early on!

www.nationalgeographic.com

The U.K. backed off on herd immunity. To beat COVID-19, we’ll ultimately need it.

Widespread immunity is essential for a successful vaccine, but establishing it could be difficult for the new coronavirus.
www.nationalgeographic.com www.nationalgeographic.com

www.bbc.com

Jeremy Corbyn: Ministers had herd immunity strategy for coronavirus

The government says the ex-Labour leader was "categorically wrong" after saying he had a briefing on it.
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Geoff.D said:
Herd Immunity is not a strategy but an outcome that signals when an infection has run its course.
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Also doesn't always end up the way people think. Natural immunity can be built up, but the safest way is via vaccines.
As if we had to rely on herd immunity for other diseases we'd all have been immune to smallpox, polio, measles and such. Yet we're not, the only reason it's under control are thanks to us intervening and creating a vaccine to build herd immunity, there was no natural immunity to them.
 
I do not fully support lock downs, especially the harder types that have severe restrictions, but I understand the need to assist our healthcare system. Having said that, I have questioned for a long time this fascination with positive test numbers, which are not an indication of those suffering from the COVID-19 disease.
 
sand_man said:
When a country pursues Herd Immunity as a means to fighting the pandemic, it becomes a strategy, much like UK early on!

www.nationalgeographic.com

The U.K. backed off on herd immunity. To beat COVID-19, we’ll ultimately need it.

Widespread immunity is essential for a successful vaccine, but establishing it could be difficult for the new coronavirus.
www.nationalgeographic.com www.nationalgeographic.com

www.bbc.com

Jeremy Corbyn: Ministers had herd immunity strategy for coronavirus

The government says the ex-Labour leader was "categorically wrong" after saying he had a briefing on it.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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Herd immunity has been working for thousands of years. Un yet, BBC says it doesn’t so it must be true.
 
Lupus said:
Also doesn't always end up the way people think. Natural immunity can be built up, but the safest way is via vaccines.
As if we had to rely on herd immunity for other diseases we'd all have been immune to smallpox, polio, measles and such. Yet we're not, the only reason it's under control are thanks to us intervening and creating a vaccine to build herd immunity, there was no natural immunity to them.
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I don't think you can compare smallpox, polio, measles, etc. to corona virus' but I get your point, I am not sure vaccines are always a safer way to create herd immunity but they are more 'controllable' in a sense.
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
No we do not need a harder lock down, what we do need is getting the idiots to wear masks, sanitize and social distance, and somehow teach the retards, consideration for their fellow beings, who have issues, like asthma, high blood pressure, diabetes, heart issues, etc.

Covid might not be a issue for you personally, but it is a death sentence for the person standing next to you. So some how we have to learn how to "look after" the person standing next to you, mission impossible in this country I think, but that is what we should be doing.
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I went to the local Spar for bread and stuff yesterday evening and there is no social distancing at all... few of the people even bumped into me while drunkenly walking about and didn't stop or say sorry or anything.
 
Neuk_ said:
I don't think you can compare smallpox, polio, measles, etc. to corona virus' but I get your point, I am not sure vaccines are always a safer way to create herd immunity but they are more 'controllable' in a sense.
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Why not they are viruses that have an incredibly high R0 compared to even SARS-CoV2, they have been around killing humans for millenia, we only got to grips with them over the last 100 or so years. Herd immunity is well and good, if the virus doesn't mutate. Even with vaccines the flu virus mutates constantly, though that's mainly because most people don't get it and so therefore muting the whole herd immunity thing. But for the flus that have gone on before we do have some immunity, even the "deadly" one from 1918.
 
Flywheel said:
I went to the local Spar for bread and stuff yesterday evening and there is no social distancing at all... few of the people even bumped into me while drunkenly walking about and didn't stop or say sorry or anything.
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Well you don't want them to say sorry, that would spread their saliva. Also see how great the lockdown is working, I mean booze is banned yet they are drinking?
 
Papa Smurf said:
No
You and Hunter can munch on biltong and stay at home
And please pay your tv license, its the right thing to do
Thank You
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If my neighbours report a single gunshot it is all your fault...
 
There should be restrictions on non-essential movement (going to the shop just because, going for sit down meals, etc.) but we should still keep online trading and delivery going as far as possible.
 
bwana said:
With a recorded 21832 new cases yesterday, including 844* reported deaths, do you think we need to go back to a harder lockdown? Or do we need to give the current level (three) time to work? Or perhaps dispense with lockdown altogether?

*It should be noted that of the 844 the 452 reported from the Eastern Cape were as result of a "data reconciliation dating between May and November 2020"
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**** ANC and lets go full retard: Lockdown Level 1984 :coffee:
Maybe then the slacktivists catch a wake up :rolleyes:
 
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