Do we need a harder lockdown?

Do we need a harder lockdown?

  • Yes Level 5

    Votes: 88 15.9%

  • Yes Level 4

    Votes: 62 11.2%

  • Give Level 3 a chance

    Votes: 158 28.5%

  • Downgrade to Level 2

    Votes: 21 3.8%

  • Downgrade to Level 1

    Votes: 30 5.4%

  • End lockdown

    Votes: 187 33.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 9 1.6%
  • Total voters
    555
I wanna see nothing less than Level 4 by next week Friday when Uncle Cyril calls the next family meeting
Thank You
 
s0lar said:
Not sure how you see they want to intentionally infect themselves from that comment. Perhaps have a cup of coffee before you post.
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If herd immunity is such a great plan, why not lead by example and start with yourself, friends and relatives. I mean Covid is not big deal right. Just get it and get it over with.

Oh wait, when you say "herd" you mean everyone else... right? ... riiiight.
 
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What we need is to ban cigarettes again, and have more fool citizens do pushups for the police over lockdown violations.
I mean that's what worked last time.

Or we can just get a grown-up government..
 
Lupus said:
Also doesn't always end up the way people think. Natural immunity can be built up, but the safest way is via vaccines.
As if we had to rely on herd immunity for other diseases we'd all have been immune to smallpox, polio, measles and such. Yet we're not, the only reason it's under control are thanks to us intervening and creating a vaccine to build herd immunity, there was no natural immunity to them.
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Natural immunity is not really possible. The mother is sometimes able to transfer antibodies for the likes of measles to the unborn child but other serious diseases like Polio won't be transferred. Babies also will only have temporary immunity and so therefore will still be able to get sick and catch the viruses.

Also if the mother has never had the disease, she will not have the antibodies to pass to her child, leaving her child still vulnerable to catch it.

Vaccines in my view point is the safest option we currently have.
 
Lupus said:
Why not they are viruses that have an incredibly high R0 compared to even SARS-CoV2, they have been around killing humans for millenia, we only got to grips with them over the last 100 or so years. Herd immunity is well and good, if the virus doesn't mutate. Even with vaccines the flu virus mutates constantly, though that's mainly because most people don't get it and so therefore muting the whole herd immunity thing. But for the flus that have gone on before we do have some immunity, even the "deadly" one from 1918.
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Virus' differ in many ways but I am no biological or medical expert, hence me acknowledging your point but highlighting that they may not be so easily comparable. Natural herd immunity in my opinion works well for infectious but not deadly virus' like the flu virus on the one end of the scale while it is never even attained on the other end of the scale for virus' like Ebola. I think measles, mumps, smallpox and probably SARS-CoV2 sit somewhere in between these two scales where they are easily transmitted, questionably deadly but the bulk of people suffer from severe symptoms. Natural herd immunity, while it has been effective for millenia according to some, leaves a lot of unknowns with new virus' and collateral damage which vaccines manage far better.
 
If all the actual tracking and tracing papers we have to fill in whenever we go somewhere actually worked the government would maybe have an idea of where the main infections are coming from and then could just sort out those issues rather than just doing a blanket "close all **** down" policy.

But lo and behold the government has no idea what they are doing
 
Papa Smurf said:
Still in my 40s, so suck on that you jealous naaiers
I vote Level 4 asap
Let the fittest survive
Hunter and that Stellenbosch wine naaier can go to hell
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Jokes on you, I'm anyway now going into full lockdown mode as one on my staff members just tested positive.
 
Neuk_ said:
Virus' differ in many ways but I am no biological or medical expert, hence me acknowledging your point but highlighting that they may not be so easily comparable. Natural herd immunity in my opinion works well for infectious but not deadly virus' like the flu virus on the one end of the scale while it is never even attained on the other end of the scale for virus' like Ebola. I think measles, mumps, smallpox and probably SARS-CoV2 sit somewhere in between these two scales where they are easily transmitted, questionably deadly but the bulk of people suffer from severe symptoms. Natural herd immunity, while it has been effective for millenia according to some, leaves a lot of unknowns with new virus' and collateral damage which vaccines manage far better.
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Be careful, the flu virus can be deadly, same as not everyone who gets polio dies, in fact there is a high percentage of people who get it don't even know they have it (sounds familar right?).
 
Short answer : No, we need a better government, border control and compliance.

Ivermectin & Chloroquine approval would have helped too
 
one can not simply, put the **** back into the horse. this is the way
 
grok said:
What we need is to ban cigarettes again, and have more fool citizens do pushups for the police over lockdown violations.
I mean that's what worked last time.

Or we can just get a grown-up government..
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How about a grown-up, considerate population
 
I don't think we've given Level 3 a chance to settle yet, plus December was full of holiday makers.

We should sit on 3 for a bit until the dates they gave and see.
 
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