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Do you believe aliens exist?
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If you say so...
Agree
It is either from nothing (that created itself) or from God. On this one there is only two options...
Yarr, if only he gave us eyes so we could see them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=motd8uqn3sc
Ultra deep field is incredible, all that in just a pin prick of the night sky... waiting for the next 'upgrade'
I don't follow.
If you agree to my first point, then why not agree that there are other possible answers that we are unable to conceive of? I wouldn't expect my meaty mind to be able to grok the nature of that which might give rise to reality.
All the billions of other options is contained in the one where there isn't a God and the universe created life by itself (not God)
Ah I see. So all other possibilities are equivalent by virtue of them not involving God. You're making a claim that goes something like this:
Vanilla & chocolate are the only two possible flavors of ice-cream.
I believe only vanilla exists.
If other flavors do exist, they are the same as chocolate; they are equivalent by virtue of not being vanilla.
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
Yup, I don't understand how people who often pride themselves at being more intelligent than us sheep can't grasp such a simple concept
What is the odds of this?
And the odss of this?
Why would aliens not do the second? I think the second is would be way more likely (if they did exist) but most people believe the first is more likely, why?
Bobbin
Honorary Master
What I know:
- Life has started in this universe at least once, and that is on Earth
- The universe is unimaginably vast potentially granting an unimaginable number of similar conditions elsewhere (Notwithstanding whether or not similar conditions are required)
That is quite literally all I really know on the subject.
Therefore, by conjecture, there is significant potential for life to have started elsewhere. It seems less likely that life ONLY started on Earth, at least I have no reason to believe this.
And therefore I conclude that alien life exists - at least if I were to choose at gunpoint and risk death if I were wrong, I'd say yes rather than no.
- Life has started in this universe at least once, and that is on Earth
- The universe is unimaginably vast potentially granting an unimaginable number of similar conditions elsewhere (Notwithstanding whether or not similar conditions are required)
That is quite literally all I really know on the subject.
Therefore, by conjecture, there is significant potential for life to have started elsewhere. It seems less likely that life ONLY started on Earth, at least I have no reason to believe this.
And therefore I conclude that alien life exists - at least if I were to choose at gunpoint and risk death if I were wrong, I'd say yes rather than no.
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1 in 1 so far so odds are good
We know life exists here, we haven't explored anywhere else to an extent that we can rule it out. Currently on mars with rovers digging **** etc, but still not ruled out because, well, to borrow a phrase from someone at some time, we've basically scooped a glass of water out of the ocean, and because there isn't a whale in it, doesn't mean there aren't whales in the ocean
RedViking
Nord of the South
At least we know whales do exist.1 in 1 so far so odds are good
techead
Honorary Master
gees people watch too much tv
/runs
/runs
Yes, but in what form? The universe is much stranger than we might think and an alien might not exist in a physical form. We assume Homo-Sapiens are the dominant life-form, but on a planet that is in the "ideal zone" with liquid water, etc, there might be gravity 10 times as fierce as on the Earth and only insects would have prospered
There are innumerable scenarios, many times more than any science-fiction writer has dreamed of
There are innumerable scenarios, many times more than any science-fiction writer has dreamed of
The problem is that the distances are so great that even is there were very advanced aliens, they might never reach us.
The laws of physics apply equally everywhere, so wormholes/faster than light travel/folding spacetime etc is no more possible anywhere else as it is here.
The laws of physics apply equally everywhere, so wormholes/faster than light travel/folding spacetime etc is no more possible anywhere else as it is here.
The Voice
Honorary Master
I think it's simple human arrogance to assume that if there is other intelligent life out there, that they couldn't possibly have achieved what we've only imagined in Sci-Fi.
I mean, we still have people running around in loincloths...
Geoff.D
Honorary Master
I don't know if you are correct. I mean SA is crawling with Aliens according to numerous official agencies ...:crylaugh: :twisted:
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You cannot achieve breaking the laws of physics. Everywhere we look galaxies etc behave the same way; the laws of physics work the same there as well.
An atom here will be the same as an atom there etc, ergo any alien will be subject to the laws of physics as well.
The Voice
Honorary Master
Possibly. But if they do exist, and have visited us, then they've mastered physics while we're only beginning to understand it some it. Most reported UFO sightings tell of erratic movement in the sky. As in, what are apparently spaceships that have travelled light years to be here, move around our atmosphere with ease. We're currently unable to do anything even remotely similar with any aircraft we've ever designed - not any that would carry passengers, anyway. Because we're bound by the laws of physics.
My point is that while physics may apply no matter where in the universe you're from, some may have found a way to bend it to their will.