Do you own a gun?

Everything. Every. Thing.

Are you happy to have drunk people with guns near you? Do you trust that a random drunk stranger has sufficient sense not to pull his gun out when drunk? Do you trust that a random drunk stranger is going to follow basic training when drunk? Do you really trust a man who carries a gun to a bar?
Having a couple of beers does not equal being drunk. I have my FA with me 24/7, even when having a couple of beers.

Most, as in 90% of FA owners are extremely responsible people and wont even get drunk or tipsy for that matter whilst carrying their FA.

Regarding the safety of your children around firearm, I would suggest you familiarise them with firearms from a young age. Show them, let them touch it and explain that under no circumstances are they ever allowed to touch one without you or your wife / partner being with them.

I believe this to be best practice as I know I will not be around always and that when my son goes to a friend or plays in a park and comes across a firearm they will not touch it but would rather call an adult.

I would rather let them look and feel in my presence than them being curious and doing it themselves and causing a accident some day.

The above should obviously be done safely and taking all safety measures into consideration.

If you in Cape Town and want to go to the range or take your children, wife or partner let me know. I obviously wont bring beers.
 
Everything. Every. Thing.

Are you happy to have drunk people with guns near you? Do you trust that a random drunk stranger has sufficient sense not to pull his gun out when drunk? Do you trust that a random drunk stranger is going to follow basic training when drunk? Do you really trust a man who carries a gun to a bar?

I just don't go near the local "police bars".
 
Firearm.

Looking at your comment in the rip current thread, the fact that you don't know what FA is, is somewhat ironic :D
 
No.

I'm not willing to have a gun in my house when I have 2 small kids.

I am familiar with guns (revolvers, pistols, rifles) but would never allow one into my house; unless, maybe, it was a rifle with the bolt removed. Kids are too goddamn curious, and curiosity leads to death.

I've been invited to join another forum member for a few beers, while he was carrying a gun. JESUS ****ING CHRIST, no, I don't drive when I am drunk, should I trust you with your gun when you are drunk???
I thought you only see people with this kind of attitude in some crazy lefty media after a American school shooting.
Interesting to see it is real, or at least as real as the Internet can be.
 
Everything. Every. Thing.

Are you happy to have drunk people with guns near you? Do you trust that a random drunk stranger has sufficient sense not to pull his gun out when drunk? Do you trust that a random drunk stranger is going to follow basic training when drunk? Do you really trust a man who carries a gun to a bar?

This is why I don't drink - always with my kids (single parent) + 99% the designated driver + carry 99% of the time = alcohol is a non-negotiable.
(i make up for it with stupid jokes)
 
No.

I'm not willing to have a gun in my house when I have 2 small kids.

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That is exactly why I have one.

I'm not Chuck Norris and have no illusions or inclination to take on multiple individuals trying to protect my girls.
A firearm is nothing but a tool that equalizes that situation.

Safety wise both my kids know what a firearm is and that they are not allowed to touch it except with my permission and under supervision.
(same as for powertools, knives, chemicals, electrical plugs, soldering iron, dangerous items that you would find around a normal house)
The FA is either on my person under my direct control or it is "safe" (locked away/secured)

If anything my girls would be safer around fire arms as they know how to handle one safely in case of extreme emergency.
 
Yep , Ruger 9mm short, copy of the Walther PPk.
Small compact and easy enough to carry in my jacket pocket.
Ruger doesn't do a PPK copy. You mean a Luger? Hungarian FEG/Luger? PA63 etc
Ruger's 9mmK would be an LCP..also very nice but unrelated to the Walther. Anyways...whatever works for you is good.
 
Ruger doesn't do a PPK copy. You mean a Luger? Hungarian FEG/Luger? PA63 etc
Ruger's 9mmK would be an LCP..also very nice but unrelated to the Walther. Anyways...whatever works for you is good.

If memory serves me - it was the Luger M380 that was similar in looks to the PPK
 
That is exactly why I have one.

I'm not Chuck Norris and have no illusions or inclination to take on multiple individuals trying to protect my girls.
A firearm is nothing but a tool that equalizes that situation.

Safety wise both my kids know what a firearm is and that they are not allowed to touch it except with my permission and under supervision.
(same as for powertools, knives, chemicals, electrical plugs, soldering iron, dangerous items that you would find around a normal house)
The FA is either on my person under my direct control or it is "safe" (locked away/secured)

If anything my girls would be safer around fire arms as they know how to handle one safely in case of extreme emergency.


I have a friend who has since moved to NZ, but his kids were all firearm proficient although they would not go near the firearms unless instructed to or (as trained) if there was danger. He has a video of his daughter in a mock drill running down the passage, grabbing and cocking the gun and pointing it towards the doorway. Her actions, speed and firing stance will put most people to shame.
 
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Sw revolver
Pump action shotgun (for those close encounters)
308 hunting rifle

Occasionally do practical sport shooting at the club.

I don't carry for self defence (no s10 license). Home defense excluded here.

Wife has s10 license for her little ruger gun.

You are allowed to carry on a sports license.
The use of a FA in self-defense situation, whether the FA is licensed under S13, S15 or S16 is considered a lawful use of the FA.
 
Everything. Every. Thing.

Are you happy to have drunk people with guns near you? Do you trust that a random drunk stranger has sufficient sense not to pull his gun out when drunk? Do you trust that a random drunk stranger is going to follow basic training when drunk? Do you really trust a man who carries a gun to a bar?

I have never felt uncomfortable drinking with my gun or being with people armed and drinking. I grew up in a farming community and till recently still owned a family farm. EVERYONE was carrying ALL the time. People who can handle themselves don't use their firearms in an argument or a fist fight. It's people who can't handle themselves in a one on one that would pull a weapon. You will never be at a braai or gathering at a farm and not have at least 90% of them carrying :D
 
I have never felt uncomfortable drinking with my gun or being with people armed and drinking. I grew up in a farming community and till recently still owned a family farm. EVERYONE was carrying ALL the time. People who can handle themselves don't use their firearms in an argument or a fist fight. It's people who can't handle themselves in a one on one that would pull a weapon. You will never be at a braai or gathering at a farm and not have at least 90% of them carrying :D
I pity the fool that decides that house is the ideal target for a house robbery.
 
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