Don't buy BP or support thier stores

capetownguy said:
Its like the e-mails that get sent each week...don't buy this...don't eat that...don't use this...they support this war...they support child labour...they are satanists...its no longer kosher/halaal...boycott this store...
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haha, you'll have to keep a diary with all the products we are suppose to avoid...

but OP, let me make you an example:

BP - oil spill -> accident [out of their control] -> trying to fix = Kudo's to them -> No boycott needed
Nestle - milk from Mrs. Mugabe -> Mugabe's <> human rights -> Nestle buying milk from Mugabe = in their control -> Boycott needed

Learn to tell the difference...
 
Fenix_SA said:
You will never be able to pull off a total, or even meaningful, boycott of an energy giant. We all need petrol and they know that.
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According to http://www.winknews.com/Local-Flori...ion-owners-say-boycotting-them-doesnt-hurt-BP it does not hurt BP to boycott them.

Extract:
Stover and other employees are worried people don't understand that boycotting their business only hurts them and the local economy, not BP.

The Vice President of Edison Oil in Fort Myers says BP gas stations may not even be selling BP gas because oil companies trade worldwide. Plus, crude oil isn't just used for gasoline. Its made into asphalt, plastics, insecticides, even perfume.
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Hosehead said:
It's been through a couple of name changes.Technicality. Caltex is actually Chevron which now owns the Caltex brand and others.

Chevron also markets its petrol through these brands Standard Oil
Texaco
Caltex
Gulf
Unocal
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
 
You'd be hard pressed to successfully boycot BP's products. These are some of the things made out of crude oil:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_products_are_derived_from_crude_oil

Crude oil is feedstock for just about everything under the sun. When crude oil is refined, its various chemical parts are separated and some become gasoline, some lubricants, some asphalt, and others the raw materials for plastics and rubber and many more things. Here are some examples of what can be obtained from petroleum (crude oil, natural gas, and/or viscous or solid forms):
Fuels - like gasoline, diesel, propane (many people use propane to heat their homes), heating oil

Heavy bottoms - like asphalt, bitumen, tar

Petrochemicals - used as a feedstock for many everyday products:


•plastic gadgets, tools, bags, toys
•candles
•clothing (polyester, nylon)
•hand lotions
•petroleum jelly
•perfume
•dishwashing liquids
•ink
•bubble gums
•car tires
•ammonia
•heart valves
•and many more


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Crude oil is refined and used to make all these products:


•Ethane and other short-chain alkanes which are used as fuel
•Diesel
•Fuel oils
•Petrol
•Jet fuel
•Kerosene
•Liquid petroleum gas (LPG)
•Natural gas
•Alkenes (olefins) which can be manufactured into plastics or other compounds
•Lubricants (produces light machine oils, motor oils, and greases, adding viscosity stabilizers as required).
•Wax, used in the packaging of frozen foods, among others.
•Sulfur or Sulfuric acid. These are a useful industrial materials. Sulfuric acid is usually prepared as the acid precursor oleum, a byproduct of sulfur removal from fuels.
•Bulk tar.
•Asphalt
•Petroleum coke, used in speciality carbon products or as solid fuel.
•Paraffin wax
•Aromatic petrochemicals to be used as precursors in other chemical production.
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Never knew Caltex was BP :mad:

Always tried to avoid Caltex before due to this but now knowing they are part of BP makes me want to avoid them more
 
Rosaudio said:
Never knew Caltex was BP :mad:

Always tried to avoid Caltex before due to this but now knowing they are part of BP makes me want to avoid them more
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The Chevron/Caltex refinery supplies ALL the petrol stations in the Western Cape and then some with the exception of SASOl. However SASOL stations are not common on the coast.
Inland, according to law, Sasol products have to be mixed by a certain percentage into all the other refineries brands because it was the only way a few years back for the Govt to offload Sasol when Brazil didn't want any more of the stuff sent to them.
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Hosehead said:
The Chevron/Caltex refinery supplies ALL the petrol stations in the Western Cape and then some with the exception of SASOl. However SASOL stations are not common on the coast.
Inland, according to law, Sasol products have to be mixed by a certain percentage into all the other refineries brands because it was the only way a few years back for the Govt to offload Sasol when Brazil didn't want any more of the stuff sent to them.
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Oh damnit im gonna have to start importing fuel :mad:
 
With regards to accidents. Company internal e-mails from engineers warned about the dangers of cutting corners, which they did.
 
then how do you explain these links:
http://boycottbp.org/why
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726
at least i am not alone, for me its a moral victory by purchasing my petrol elsewhere, not from a company with a bad safety history and unethical values, as can be seen by the CNN reports on investigations into the company.
BP= Beyond pathetic

The land that was previously the disaster area of the exxon valdez spill has still never recovered, and never will, how will you feel if your loved ones has cancer and a potential cure species was killed off because of this spill

BTW how good is your car going to be anyways when the worlds oil supply runs out? Have you ordered the new Joule promised to be released this year?
 
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The cleanup in the gulf is going to cost mucho dollars, wouldn't it be better to support BP in order to pay for the cleanup?
 
alloytoo said:
The cleanup in the gulf is going to cost mucho dollars, wouldn't it be better to support BP in order to pay for the cleanup?
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Yes so that they can use our money to fix the problem and they still get to keep the billions of profit they make for their pockets. That same mucho dollars could have been used more effectively for other more important world issues... like helping eskom build a renewable energy electricity plant :D
 
trinityEon said:
This is rated the quickest responded wall on facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726?v=wall,


"It really is simple. If I by a toaster and it breaks, I buy a different brand of toaster. Similarly if I buy petrol from a company that destroyed the gulf, I will stop buying from them. We have to hold them accountable somehow."
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Wow, the bad logic there actually hurt me on the inside. Here is a better comparison:

"If the factory that makes bread spills some flour, I stop buying bread from PnP and go to Checkers instead. Similarly if I buy petrol from a company that destroyed the gulf, I will stop buying from them."
 
trinityEon said:
This is rated the quickest responded wall on facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726?v=wall,


"It really is simple. If I by a toaster and it breaks, I buy a different brand of toaster. Similarly if I buy petrol from a company that destroyed the gulf, I will stop buying from them. We have to hold them accountable somehow."
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Of course if this boycott were so successful that BP went bust overnight thus rendering them unable to continue trying to plug the leak it would mean the dumb American tax payer orchestrating the boycott would be left to foot the bill. Stupid Americans!
 
R13... said:
Of course if this boycott were so successful that BP went bust overnight thus rendering them unable to continue trying to plug the leak it would mean the dumb American tax payer orchestrating the boycott would be left to foot the bill. Stupid Americans!
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Mmm. Mess in the ocean affects all of us, not just stupid Americans.
 
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