Don't Israel's nuclear weapons count?

[Alan]

I was coming back from the catholic church and was feeling emo/sad, it.

They were trying to cheer you up :erm:

 

[Sherbang]

no problem - I will gladly take you up on this - I will dress up as an arab and go to Rabin square in Israel holding up signs saying free palestine and what not and at the same time you dress up as a jew and do the same in ramallah in the West bank saying down with suicide bombings and arab terror - now lets take bets on which one of us gets out alive and which one not.

:erm: no... I'm not claiming that the West Bank is a democracy that supports freedom of speech so I've no need to prove anything.

You (or Marine1, at any rate) are claiming that Israel has freedom, freedom of speech etc, Marine1 says that he never felt more safe. So I challenged him, if you want to take it up go ahead and get someone to film it please. I'm not going to do the same in Ramallah because I've made no claims regarding freedom there and have no need to.

You guys do this all the time, you think that by pointing out that Ramallah isn't free somehow disproves my argument that Israel isn't free, but actually it's not relevant.

 

[Slooth]

The world should nuke each other to get rid of these threads.

 

[nivek]

Police stop a suspicious looking guy walking down the street covering his face with a tshirt, he gets released after a short investigation, wheres the problem? They just doing their job

If only our police were so proactive, here you can walk down the street wearing a balaclava and they wont stop eating lunch to ask whats the story

 

[rebel998]

No one should have nukes.

But apparently some of the stuff/technology might be bought on the blackmarket so I guess it's a little late hoping for that.

 

[za1]

:erm: no... I'm not claiming that the West Bank is a democracy that supports freedom of speech so I've no need to prove anything.

You (or Marine1, at any rate) are claiming that Israel has freedom, freedom of speech etc, Marine1 says that he never felt more safe. So I challenged him, if you want to take it up go ahead and get someone to film it please. I'm not going to do the same in Ramallah because I've made no claims regarding freedom there and have no need to.

You guys do this all the time, you think that by pointing out that Ramallah isn't free somehow disproves my argument that Israel isn't free, but actually it's not relevant.

There is no need to test Israel as an establishment because there is more than enough evidence of pro palestine demonstrations that have been held inside Israel, so we can already determine that there is freedom of speech inside Israel, unlike as you have said, in the Palestinian areas.
I can supply links, but you can google and see for yourself.

Now what would happen if you dressed up as an Arab and started demonstrating in Tel-Aviv - I'm sure you would get support and also people that would object - that is what tends to happen in a democracy - but at least you would be allowed to voice an opinion.

 

[I want a GTI]

There is no need to test Israel as an establishment because there is more than enough evidence of pro palestine demonstrations that have been held inside Israel, so we can already determine that there is freedom of speech inside Israel, unlike as you have said, in the Palestinian areas.
I can supply links, but you can google and see for yourself.

Now what would happen if you dressed up as an Arab and started demonstrating in Tel-Aviv - I'm sure you would get support and also people that would object - that is what tends to happen in a democracy - but at least you would be allowed to voice an opinion.

Ofcourse you would get the slightest bit of support from those anti-zionist jews that have a conscience.

They see it first hand, the expulsion, the concentration camp that is Gaza, the apartheid, the organ smuggling, the white phosphorous, the degradation
etc etc

They see it, literally.

 

[InTheCube]

:erm: no... I'm not claiming that the West Bank is a democracy that supports freedom of speech so I've no need to prove anything.

You (or Marine1, at any rate) are claiming that Israel has freedom, freedom of speech etc, Marine1 says that he never felt more safe. So I challenged him, if you want to take it up go ahead and get someone to film it please. I'm not going to do the same in Ramallah because I've made no claims regarding freedom there and have no need to.

You guys do this all the time, you think that by pointing out that Ramallah isn't free somehow disproves my argument that Israel isn't free, but actually it's not relevant.

+100. Excellent point.

 

[marine1]

Police stop a suspicious looking guy walking down the street covering his face with a tshirt, he gets released after a short investigation, wheres the problem? They just doing their job

If only our police were so proactive, here you can walk down the street wearing a balaclava and they wont stop eating lunch to ask whats the story

Exactly

 

[alloytoo]

And neither is North Korea. They withdrew from it in 2003. So why is the west still going for North Korea, but not Israel? Double standards. They are hypocrites.

North Korea violated the treaty and then withdrew from it.

Israel, India and Pakistan have not violated the treaty

In any case, nuclear weapons are nuclear weapons? Whether a country's president has signed a document or not, it doesn't change anything.

and conventional weapons are conventional weapons, other than stating the obvious do you have a point?

The west obviously have other agendas in the Middle East.
They've already caused havoc in almost every part of the Middle East. Except for Iran. They're afraid. What cowards.

Irrelevant to Israel's nuclear status.

 

[alloytoo]

BS, Iran never threatened anyone. They havent killed inoccent people and almost destroyed Palestine. Israel should not be trusted with Nuclear weapons!!!

Why not?

If Israel has nukes, then they've had them for at least 45 years.

 

[JK8]

Why not?

If Israel has nukes, then they've had them for at least 45 years.

They more likely to use them than Iran.
Besides, they havent declared how many they have.

 

[alloytoo]

They more likely to use them than Iran.
Besides, they havent declared how many they have.

They haven't used them in 45 years despite provacation and opportunity, and this naturally makes them more likely to used them?

Peaceful Iran is racing gleefully to acquire the capacity, that they're unlikely to use?

Logic fail I think.

 

[nivek]

They more likely to use them than Iran.
Besides, they havent declared how many they have.

More likely than Iran? Wow, your translation changes more often than nathi mthethwa changes 5 star hotel rooms

You dont even know what to believe

 

[Lucas Buck]

North Korea violated the treaty and then withdrew from it.

Israel, India and Pakistan have not violated the treaty


and conventional weapons are conventional weapons, other than stating the obvious do you have a point?


Irrelevant to Israel's nuclear status.

To all the pro zionist fanboys stop reading and spreading disinformation

Iran is in compliance of NPT by having all facilities disclosed and open for IAEA monitoring. On Monday September 21, 2009 Iran disclosed to IAEA per NPT terms of 180 day notification of a new nuclear energy facility that is about 18 months away from operation link

 

[JK8]

They haven't used them in 45 years despite provacation and opportunity, and this naturally makes them more likely to used them?

Peaceful Iran is racing gleefully to acquire the capacity, that they're unlikely to use?

Logic fail I think.

Ofcourse!!! Nobody trusts Israel!! They think they can bully everyone...
They cant drop a nuclear weapon in Palestine now can they

Iran wont use it on Israel.

More likely than Iran? Wow, your translation changes more often than nathi mthethwa changes 5 star hotel rooms

You dont even know what to believe

Its the translator. My opinion has been the same as always.

 

[d0b33]

spreading disinformation

Yup people still fall for this, if you do your own research and not rely on the ratings driven media(which lead the war into Iraq with disinformation and fell for the baloon boy story) you get the real picture of the world.

 

[alloytoo]

To all the pro zionist fanboys stop reading and spreading disinformation

Please be specific as to what information I supplied was incorrect or retract.

Iran is in compliance of NPT by having all facilities disclosed and open for IAEA monitoring. On Monday September 21, 2009 Iran disclosed to IAEA per NPT terms of 180 day notification of a new nuclear energy facility that is about 18 months away from operation link

Please indicate where I said otherwise or retract.

 

[alloytoo]

Ofcourse!!! Nobody trusts Israel!! They think they can bully everyone...

Immotive and without substance.

They cant drop a nuclear weapon in Palestine now can they.

They could, it would be very stupid, and atypical of them, but they could.

Iran wont use it on Israel.

Iran won't be allowed to use it on Israel.

 

[za1]

They could, it would be very stupid, and atypical of them, but they could.

huh, how can you drop something on nothing or something that is not and never was?
you may as well say israel will drop a nuke on the easter bunnys hideaway - it is as real as any mythical palestine!

future negotiations will probably force the Israelis to give up what is rightfully theirs to the palestinian occupiers squatting on their land, and in that case, so be it, if it brings peace to the region, then the jews will have to be satisfied with what ever crumbs of their land that the world lets them live on in peace.