Driving with headlights on

Nerfherder said:
But there is less light so you need the headlights.

More light : bad : eyes sore

Less light: good : eyes not sore


Let me ask you this?

Do any of you chops walk round with a flash-light during the day so that other people don't bump in to you ?
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Yip with reflective coating and don't forget the blinking red light belt i walk around with.
 
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This is my night outfit
 
There are a lot of half blind people out there with valid drivers licenses - my mother-in-law a prime example.
Drive without your lights on by all means if it makes you feel safer/hate it/annoys you. Leave the rest of us alone that do.

I did notice last time someone drove into me, the insurance form asked which cars had their lights on.
I did, other woman not.....weather it made a difference I don't know - didn't go to court, insurance paid, that was last I heard of it.
 
Archer said:
Ok smart people. If lights are the be all and end all of being seen why do I still not get seen with a freaking orange cover on my headlight, and 2 more spots to the side of it? It really doesnt get more out of the ordinary than that and yet the end result is the same. The root cause of the problem is not being addressed at all. You're just creating an environment where everyone will have lights, and everyone will then be just as "invisible" as they are now.
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Because now you look like a broken indicator?
 
Usually I only turn my headlights on if I encounter someone driving slowly in front of me. For any other reason I'll leave my lights off. No need for lights during the day really.
 
])ragon_\/oid;12131721 said:
Usually I only turn my headlights on if I encounter someone driving slowly in front of me. For any other reason I'll leave my lights off. No need for lights during the day really.
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I can guarantee you that if you come up behind me and switch your headlights on because you think I'm driving too slow I will only drive slower just to piss you off.
 
deweyzeph said:
I can guarantee you that if you come up behind me and switch your headlights on because you think I'm driving too slow I will only drive slower just to piss you off.
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And if you are on the fast lane and there is space open to your left and no slower moving vehicles further ahead in that left hand lane, and I flash my lights at you, what would be the legal thing for you to do?
 
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supersunbird said:
And if you are on the fast lane and there is space open to your left and no slower moving vehicles further ahead in that left hand lane, and I flash my light at you, what would be the legal thing to do?
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The legal thing would be to not force you off the road and physically assault you.
 
supersunbird said:
Oh, so do you know the law or not?

*PS, I would never do the stated question, but there are laws around it.
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In theory you're supposed to drive in the left lane and only use the right or outside lane for overtaking. There was a recent case where an unmarked police vehicle flashed a guy in the "fast" lane to move over and when he refused they pulled him over and fined him. He refused to pay and took it all the way to court and eventually the fine was cancelled.
 
Must have been canceled over a technicality, legally the cop was correct.

I payed close attention yesterday afternoon while driving home in the sun is out but still but lighting which most people do not switch headlights on for, this is what I have noticed;

- A DRL is more eye catching (distracting) than a correctly pointed headlight
- An incorrectly pointed headlight is more distracting than a DRL but in no means blinding (But people with high headlights are another issue all together)
- When everyone drives with their headlights on it is more difficult to see a motorbike who is lane splitting
- Orange headlights are much more noticeable, even when all others have their headlights on (even some with high beams)
- Bikes with brights on are ass***** as it is near impossible to judge your distance, your speed etc and if I am the one that is supposed to work around you, I would like to know exactly where you are


My conclusion, the best option for visibility would be all cars using DRL\low beam (correctly pointed) headlights and all motorbikes use orange headlights on low beam
 
deweyzeph said:
In theory you're supposed to drive in the left lane and only use the right or outside lane for overtaking. There was a recent case where an unmarked police vehicle flashed a guy in the "fast" lane to move over and when he refused they pulled him over and fined him. He refused to pay and took it all the way to court and eventually the fine was cancelled.
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The rules of the road actually make provision for flashing your headlights at a slow driver who you want to overtake. I've done it a couple of times: I'd keep a safe and decent following distance, flash my lights and wait for the slower car to change lanes. I always follow up by waving "thanks". It's a simple indication that you want to pass and can be given without being rude about it.

As for DRL or even normal headlights (not brights) in the day - some cars seems to try their utmost best to camo themselves with the road. I've been glad about someone else's lights being on in overcast conditions where said car is a dark grey.
 
I have no issue with someone expecting me to move over to the left on a multi-lane highway. I have a big issue with people expecting me to move over into the yellow emergency lane on a single-lane road so that they can overtake me.
 
deweyzeph said:
In theory you're supposed to drive in the left lane and only use the right or outside lane for overtaking. There was a recent case where an unmarked police vehicle flashed a guy in the "fast" lane to move over and when he refused they pulled him over and fined him. He refused to pay and took it all the way to court and eventually the fine was cancelled.
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not Theory but actual law.... http://www.westerncape.gov.za/other/2012/7/nrta_regulations.pdf

Section 323,bb,(5)

Where the driver of a motor vehicle which is being driven in the right-hand traffic lane or in the traffic lane furthest to the right on a freeway (hereinafter referred to as the first vehicle) becomes aware that the driver of another motor vehicle (hereinafter referred to as the second vehicle) intends to overtake the first vehicle, the driver of the first vehicle shall steer that vehicle to a lane to the left of the one in which he or she is driving, without endangering himself or herself or other traffic or property on the freeway, and shall not accelerate the speed of his or her vehicle until the second vehicle has passed.
 
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