EASSy bandwidth here next month

Good news but I think IPConnect is the big ticket in bandwidth price nowadays. Still, more redundancy is always good.
 
Garyvdh said:
and you base that on??? ... prior experience? Market analysis? Economic forecasts?

What would you say was the major price trend over the last year since Seacom went live?
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All of the above dear sir. Telkom is still charging the additional R413 per month and mobile data rates are still too expensive. Prices will probably hit R10gb but they wont relax the throttling and shaping. Also line rental increased with Seacom here.. well here sortof pale a repeater or cable failure.
 
Peon said:
All of the above dear sir. Telkom is still charging the additional R413 per month and mobile data rates are still too expensive. Prices will probably hit R10gb but they wont relax the throttling and shaping. Also line rental increased with Seacom here.. well here sortof pale a repeater or cable failure.
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Hmmm... I guess we will see. I like to save posts like this to come back to in six months time! :D
 
Garyvdh said:
Hmmm... I guess we will see. I like to save posts like this to come back to in six months time! :D
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I doubt any of us will feel bad if we're proven wrong - but that charge nevertheless remains an obstacle for many, myself included, which is why I have stayed with the somewhat unpredictable iBurst.
 
Garyvdh said:
having a back up route for traffic in case your primary route goes down.
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What WILL be interesting to see is whether ISPs like Afrihost buy capacity on two or more cables... that would be sensible from a redundancy point of view, but they'll probably be able to get better prices if they buy everything from one cable conglomerate rather than half from two.
 
Fritzinger said:
What WILL be interesting to see is whether ISPs like Afrihost buy capacity on two or more cables... that would be sensible from a redundancy point of view, but they'll probably be able to get better prices if they buy everything from one cable conglomerate rather than half from two.
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It would not be necessary if Seacom can negotiate their own redundancy agreement with EASSy. All Seacom has to do is to say to EASSy we will provide mutual redundancy for you if you do the same for us. No charge, just simple peering agreements. That makes the most sense... then their clients don't have to worry about redundancy and the market is open for fair play and pricing.
 
Garyvdh said:
It would not be necessary if Seacom can negotiate their own redundancy agreement with EASSy. All Seacom has to do is to say to EASSy we will provide mutual redundancy for you if you do the same for us. No charge, just simple peering agreements. That makes the most sense... then their clients don't have to worry about redundancy and the market is open for fair play and pricing.
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Why not charge an INTERCONNECT rate? :D:D
 
Garyvdh said:
No, there should not be any significant difference in latencies. The limitations are due to physical restraints (the sheer distances involved) rather than any logistical constraints. New relay technologies can improve the situation slightly but not significantly.

If you want better latencies... move to another continent. Sorry :(
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Ummm, SEACOM currently goes via Mumbai, although this is due to change 'soon' when the direct route is connected. EASSY never goes anywhere near Mumbai, according to this chart, so latency may be slightly less, at least during the initial phase:
http://manypossibilities.net/african-undersea-cables/
 
Gordon_R said:
Ummm, SEACOM currently goes via Mumbai, although this is due to change 'soon' when the direct route is connected. EASSY never goes anywhere near Mumbai, according to this chart, so latency may be slightly less, at least during the initial phase:
http://manypossibilities.net/african-undersea-cables/
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Seacom connects via SEA-ME-WE-4 to Marseilles, France ... to an open access peering point. The latencies to Europe are pretty much the same as SAT-3.

http://www.seacom.mu/network/europe.html
 
Lord Anubis said:
Does this mean a Telkom uncapped unshapef offering is in the works...imminently :)
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Last I heard and RPM confirmed in a meeting with the MD of Telkom SA, there will not be an uncapped residential ADSL product. Caps will be increased but no uncapped.
 
Telkom have missed a big trick here ...

Really .. considering the enormous success of MWEB uncapped and the currently downward trend in the Telkom profit margin .. it really is a MASSIVE oversight on behalf of Telkom .. they really should've been ready for this ..

With a little planning, and some clever marketing, they could've done exactly what MWEB did and subsidize the uncapped knowing that the 3rd Cable was landing soon, and basically quadrupling their ISP client base.. follow this up with aggressive price cuts in the IPC and ADSL connection department .. and the launching of a free low speed ADSL circuit that every Telkom client has access to (dare I say like Neotel and their connect lite option ... eish) ...

This would have given them I nice boost in bottom line and client base and a great platform to launch future value adds to a much larger client base, and slowly build a sustainable business model .. cause I think we all know that the current business model is only sustainable as long as they have no serious competition..
 
jetlee said:
Really .. considering the enormous success of MWEB uncapped and the currently downward trend in the Telkom profit margin .. it really is a MASSIVE oversight on behalf of Telkom .. they really should've been ready for this ..

With a little planning, and some clever marketing, they could've done exactly what MWEB did and subsidize the uncapped knowing that the 3rd Cable was landing soon, and basically quadrupling their ISP client base.. follow this up with aggressive price cuts in the IPC and ADSL connection department .. and the launching of a free low speed ADSL circuit that every Telkom client has access to (dare I say like Neotel and their connect lite option ... eish) ...

This would have given them I nice boost in bottom line and client base and a great platform to launch future value adds to a much larger client base, and slowly build a sustainable business model .. cause I think we all know that the current business model is only sustainable as long as they have no serious competition..
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Telkom don't want to grow their client base...they can hardly service their existing ADSL client base.

More ADSL users will mean more Service calls about shoddy copper performance and demanding line replacements.

They don't mind more customers for their ISP... but they are stubbornly refusing to grow their ADSL userbase.

Somebody needs to get in there and start kicking some butt.
 
It seems the lack of foresight and vision is making to bigwigs drop like flies! Maar moenie stress... the ANC will bale them out!
 
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