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gregmcc
Honorary Master
Oh Lord..now were going to get quotas on power. What comes next.
Could??? Too late for that. Billions of rands has already been lost due to Eskom's incompetence.
Could??? Too late for that. Billions of rands has already been lost due to Eskom's incompetence.
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
bleh
when will there be a MyEishkom.co.za site?
when will there be a MyEishkom.co.za site?
Fine, let us fine Eskom for reduced generator capacity of an essential commodity and an acute skill shortage and massive business losses and inconvenience of the general consumer. Furthermore, let us place a minimum quota on electricity generation of 36500MW at any time. If the electricity generation falls at any time below this minimum level all performance bonuses of all Eskom staff will be redistributed to the general public to purchase generators. Any further blackouts to businesses will result in the Eskom board members to forgo their pay in order to try and recompense said business losses.
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gregmcc
Honorary Master
What next - a cap on the water usage! 
plugger123
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Now the consumer is paying for the governments incompetence... They should have invested in this when Eishkom asked for investment. Electricity fines sounds crazy. Well, I'll probably go build me some wind turbines and put them on my roof if things get out of hand. Check this out:
http://windpower.org.za/
Maybe some one will come up with a good idea to generate electricity cheap and put Eskom out of business. That will be a laugh...
http://windpower.org.za/
Maybe some one will come up with a good idea to generate electricity cheap and put Eskom out of business. That will be a laugh...
gregmcc
Honorary Master
When load shedding came out it also sounded crazy, but its been going on for so long now its become the norm. Sounds like another bend over and take it session.
CrazyMadMan
Senior Member
I just got capped, oh wait, if i was capped by Es*** I could not post this! 
gregmcc
Honorary Master
Unless your cheating the system and are on UPS.
Praeses
Executive Member
I hope they get sued to hell. I can't believe they want to fine the public because THEY screwed up big-time.
Who wants to start a group called "sue eskom till they fall over" or "sue eskom till they die" or sue eskom till they blow up" or ".......etc
I will be most glad to join and of course vent my anger and frustration, how on earth can our electricity be capped? and at what levels? omg, and then they still haven't figured out how to (oh i'm sorry how not to at least so they can still suck us dry on gas as well and not just telecoms) to lower gas prices of LPG, this country is really going down big time.
I will be most glad to join and of course vent my anger and frustration, how on earth can our electricity be capped? and at what levels? omg, and then they still haven't figured out how to (oh i'm sorry how not to at least so they can still suck us dry on gas as well and not just telecoms) to lower gas prices of LPG, this country is really going down big time.
Residential Consumers of electricity consume far less electricity than Industrial Consumers of electricity consume, why must Residential Consumers be punished with fines and having their electricity supply suspended? - especially when Industrial Consumers of electricity have zero incentive to find more energy-efficient ways of running their businesses...
IMO Industrial Consumers of electricity should be charged according to a sliding scale that someone suggested in a post somewhere: the more you use, the more you pay - but apply it to Industrial Consumers of electricity first - based on how much electricity they use, and not based on whether they might be physically located in an industrial area - bcos I know some greedy spark|shark at a municipality somewhere will decide to charge everyone more in a so-called industrial area regardless of how much they actually use.
IMO Industrial Consumers of electricity should be charged according to a sliding scale that someone suggested in a post somewhere: the more you use, the more you pay - but apply it to Industrial Consumers of electricity first - based on how much electricity they use, and not based on whether they might be physically located in an industrial area - bcos I know some greedy spark|shark at a municipality somewhere will decide to charge everyone more in a so-called industrial area regardless of how much they actually use.
What next - a cap on the water usage!
We had numerous water shortages in the summer months especially in the Western Cape.
We've had petrol shortages.
We've got electricity shortages.
We've had gas shortages.
We've even had Carbon Dioxide shortages.
The ANC government is showing its complete incompetence.
Obviously investment will drop.
eltherza
Expert Member
But we are all already charged for electricity use. As for the businesses, well, lets say a smelter gets a huge order this month because our standards are so good our business is doing well. Suddenly, we need more (much more) power. We will get fined for doing well? But we also have to pay the normal bill on top of that.
Seriously, getting fined for using to much of a product is just plain stupid. Are you trying to drive away business even more?
14% price increase, no guarantee of power doing the day and you'll get fined for using to much power? Who in their right minds would want to start/invest in a company here?
Read the costs so far are in the billions. Investors have lost BILLIONS.
Now you want to fine them too? Way to make people angry/go else where...
Seriously, getting fined for using to much of a product is just plain stupid. Are you trying to drive away business even more?
14% price increase, no guarantee of power doing the day and you'll get fined for using to much power? Who in their right minds would want to start/invest in a company here?
Read the costs so far are in the billions. Investors have lost BILLIONS.
Now you want to fine them too? Way to make people angry/go else where...
We're not the only ones with a power problem. The Chinese who add the equivalent of our entire national grid to their system ever year or so are also experiencing power cuts. The factories we deal with have been hit with power rationing last year, delaying orders by up to 15 working days.
On the issue of electricity costs, they are much, much cheaper here than anywhere else - even though businesses pay more than residential, it's still miles less than in the 1st world countries.
Biggest problem here is that the cretins in Government and the cretins in Eskom were too quick to get rid of the whites with skills and replace them with blacks with no skills - without a transition period where the outgoing to transfer their skills to the incoming staff, and the net result is incompetence from top to bottom.
Substation fires are generally caused by the oil coolant not being replaced timeously, and there have been a lot of those....
While Eskom might have requested to build more power stations, it sounds to me like they asked once, were declined and never pursued the matter ever again, instead taking this money and paying themselves fat performance bonuses while not performing.
One of my staff drives past some ministerial residences on his way to work, and about 2 months ago told me that he saw large generators being offloaded - what does that tell you ?
Looks like were in **** for the long haul - our incompetent government is proudly reducing us to the compost heap that is the rest of Africa..............
On the issue of electricity costs, they are much, much cheaper here than anywhere else - even though businesses pay more than residential, it's still miles less than in the 1st world countries.
Biggest problem here is that the cretins in Government and the cretins in Eskom were too quick to get rid of the whites with skills and replace them with blacks with no skills - without a transition period where the outgoing to transfer their skills to the incoming staff, and the net result is incompetence from top to bottom.
Substation fires are generally caused by the oil coolant not being replaced timeously, and there have been a lot of those....
While Eskom might have requested to build more power stations, it sounds to me like they asked once, were declined and never pursued the matter ever again, instead taking this money and paying themselves fat performance bonuses while not performing.
One of my staff drives past some ministerial residences on his way to work, and about 2 months ago told me that he saw large generators being offloaded - what does that tell you ?
Looks like were in **** for the long haul - our incompetent government is proudly reducing us to the compost heap that is the rest of Africa..............
Moederloos
Honorary Master
We spend years telling them there is a problem, and then when the **** hits the fan (thankfully it was not working due to loadshedding), they fine us.
Welcome to Efrika.
EDIT: Any potential foreign investor reading this: Rather invest in China - even South Africans do not want to invest in our own country.
Welcome to Efrika.
EDIT: Any potential foreign investor reading this: Rather invest in China - even South Africans do not want to invest in our own country.
pkid
Expert Member
Gees. It is only going to be sorted out by middle next decade? Is FIFA really going to let us host the world cup now? Is there nothing that they can do to build more capacity quickly? I think that we are beyond the point where we should be building nuclear. The quickest, dirtiest coal or whatever power stations are needed.