Eskom can't take back white engineers without jumping through hoops

Gary Waterworth said:
You have touched on something here that was my pet irritation with more junior IT engineers.
I kept saying. Walk through the server room from time to time. Look at the lights and listen..... Answer back was... We have monitoring. Dont need to do that
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Half the kids in IT today would be shocked to know the cloud runs in server rooms... they think its some magic entity on the other end of the Internet supported by fluffy penguins riding pink unicorns.
 
neoprema said:
Half the kids in IT today would be shocked to know the cloud runs in server rooms... they think its some magic entity on the other end of the Internet supported by fluffy penguins riding pink unicorns.
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I have met many experienced IT people who think they understand the cloud but the only 1 I know of that knows what he is doing is someone who learned from me. Serverless technology actually allows developers to not know anything server related. This is an advantage because then they can focus on dev and innovation for their business clients while the cloud vender does the serverly things.
 
HunterNW said:
So the old dudes come and fix it, leave - policies re enforced - Wait a year and it's fcked again.
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As Lupus mentioned the skills can be passed along once things are working again. It's a better option that the shytshow we find ourselves in today. In an ideal world there wouldn't be any policies etc, but that's not going to happen any time soon.
 
neoprema said:
Half the kids in IT today would be shocked to know the cloud runs in server rooms... they think its some magic entity on the other end of the Internet supported by fluffy penguins riding pink unicorns.
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It's like that moerstrip feeling I get when a DevOps person tells me there's enough Cores and RAM on the new VM they gave me....
"Yeah poephol, but that hypervisor could be running on a Raspberry Pi with 10 other VM's for all I know"
 
theratman said:
As Lupus mentioned the skills can be passed along once things are working again. It's a better option that the shytshow we find ourselves in today. In an ideal world there wouldn't be any policies etc, but that's not going to happen any time soon.
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Agree with skills being passed on - But then you must have the aptitude for it.
 
theratman said:
As Lupus mentioned the skills can be passed along once things are working again. It's a better option that the shytshow we find ourselves in today. In an ideal world there wouldn't be any policies etc, but that's not going to happen any time soon.
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True, but was there an attempt to pass them on before these individuals left?

Why did this fail? Poor succession planning, no aptitude, further skills drain? What will be done different now considering that their priority would be to get the job done, not to train others to do it.
 
Did anyone expect him to directly say "sorry, cannot employ them, they're white. And it will put the ANC in a bad light."?
 
Oh well, I can imagine de Ruyter's issues with this idea. First his ANC baas would tell him "aikona". Then, if implemented, Project Ballie would probably show up many, many inexperienced, incompetent and corrupt "engineers" and the like, all at inflated salaries. Worst of all, as noted, would be if the Ballie Brigade actually got things fixed and running; that would show up the 1994 Eskom ANC Project as the failure it is.

Amusing too is what the ballies would find on re-entry into Eskom, few competent artisans, contractors or clerks etc, no petty cash, little care for the quality of work, little maintenance and a tender system that is likely to spit out an incompetent contractor after a long delay. The ballies would be risking their health!

Funnily enough some ballies are already partly in the Eskom woodwork, only existing because Eskom don't seem to have people who can do a design, put drawings for construction together and get a job built, even with all the bs relating to their incompetence and borderline corruption (making the contractor use "local" labour, plant and transport, none mentioned in their contract document). Some of the ballies do quite well out of these projects.

The Eskom engineers the ballies interface with are young, pleasant and sharp but very inexperienced and with no mentors or senior engineers in sight who can guide them. Their procurement policies are crazy as well. Less said about this the better.
 
RaptorSA said:
“But working without compensation creates a whole range of problems in terms of liability, accountability, and being engaged and subject themselves to discipline as it may be required,” he stated."

Jisses then just pay them.
Christ this country...

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Stop blaspheming...rather take Mohammed's name in vain and see how long you last on the streets, sunshine. Show some respect...if you can, juvenile ejit.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Good to know there's so many IT techies here who can fix Eskom should there ever be an issue in the server room...
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You are aware that not all of Eskom's problems are strictly in the power plant ?
Oracle stopping services and other Vendors I am aware of have also raised their heads in the last few years
 
boboudts said:
Stop blaspheming...rather take Mohammed's name in vain and see how long you last on the streets, sunshine. Show some respect...if you can, juvenile ejit.
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Jeeeeesus.
That escalated quickly.

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Mybad though, next time I'll preface my posts by saying I'm actually a pro-religious conservative atheist who cares about climate change and straddles the line between conservatism and libertarianism, daily.
 
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ToxicBunny said:
We jesu!
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Harvesting post-rock "sonic signature anguish" with a melodic positive upturn that leaves you wondering if you're actually happily depressed, happy to be depressed, or just happy.

The stuff of genius.

 
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Show some respect to the tuisebebakte gottage pie in the sky or else the streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers!
 
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