Eugene Terre'blanche murdered

Amazing .... about 450 posts and I am sure less then 5% of them do not convey any message of sorrow, sadness or condolences.

What happened was sad and wrong, no matter what the motivation is ... and my condolences to the family, relatives and friends of ET.
 
Not good at all, regardless of the motivation.

As mentioned ET would be seen as the icon of the "Boer", and I doubt his followers are going to sit around do nothing. The sad part is of course, that if things do turn ugly, there are going to be many innocents caught in the cross fire
 
bmchunu said:
Amazing .... about 450 posts and I am sure less then 5% of them do not convey any message of sorrow, sadness or condolences.
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Let's be honest - if there was no Malema and the country was generally at peace with each other very few would shed a tear for ET.

The only thing to admire about him was his passion.

And let's be even more honest - if Malema was taken out how many of us would convey any message of sadness....
 
the354 said:
+1 There is no way there can be a war wiithout a terrible price. The rest of the world will do nothing, we will be massacred. Look at the support the farmers in Zimbabwe got.? Nothing. If you can leave, leave now. There is no logical alternative.
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Agreed. Not only is it impossible due to a lack of will but furthermore there is nothing to achieve from a war. If a far right-wing faction was to overthrow the government (which is impossible) SA would simply return to pre-94 sanctions, isolation etc. It isn't worth dying for. 1000 young SADF members died for nothing for the NP's fsuced up vision. What is there to fight for? Yes, leaving is the logical alternative.
 
Milano said:
After Mandela, the ANC starting creating more and more of a "us versus them" mentality eg The recent, "Whites are to blame for lack of service delivery" statement, etc, etc. The majority of whites were happy to live in a rainbow nation, but we now have racial tensions which have been fostered by the ANC. A missed opportunity to create a rainbow nation. We are moving into more and more of a racially hostile political climate - the path the ANC has made forward will be irreversible.
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Unfortunately for those not included in the top 200 of the ANC, the ANC has squandered everything.

They squandered the opportunity to learn from Mandela, they squandered the assets of all state institutions and parastatals, they squandered the IP of the majority of those running things, rather than by learning from them, but by simply replacing them with friends and cronies who had no knowledge.

The end result of such action is very visible when one looks North ...
 
Almost every thread has the same dogmatic plebb arguing with people?!
 
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Just read on News24 that Malema has been murdered by two white youths. They never stole anything but police have said it was not politically motivated :D :D
 
Condolences for the ET family.

This is a terrible thing regardless of who was killed.

As much as I dont want to admit it to myself, I dont think it was Malema's intention to have something like this happen. He is misguided, im sure he didnt intend harm be done, but unfortunately it has, hes going to have to realize that, because of his power, everything he states can have a butterfly effect.
 
Milano said:
Just read on News24 that Malema has been murdered by two white youths. They never stole anything but police have said it was not politically motivated :D :D
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<sarcasm>I got excited there for a bit :D :D but alas, it was short lived. </sarcasm>
 
daveza said:
Let's be honest - if there was no Malema and the country was generally at peace with each other very few would shed a tear for ET.

The only thing to admire about him was his passion.

And let's be even more honest - if Malema was taken out how many of us would convey any message of sadness....
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It's fun reading the BBC obit for ET. Halfway through, you have to check if you're reading about ET or Mister Malema himself:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3797797.stm

[his] thunderous voice and magnificent style of delivery - alternating between roar and husky whisper, with gestures to match - helped to disguise the complete meaninglessness of what he was saying.

His oratory would sweep from the plight of white farmers, to ancient Greek philosophy, to the state of the Soviet Union, without any apparent logic.

Terreblanche seemed to walk a tightrope between racist menace and national joke.
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Okay, the "ancient Greek philosophy" bit was definitely not Mister Malema. But that last sentence there could describe him very well.
 
the354 said:
+1 There is no way there can be a war wiithout a terrible price. The rest of the world will do nothing, we will be massacred. Look at the support the farmers in Zimbabwe got.? Nothing. If you can leave, leave now. There is no logical alternative.
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You are predicating your ‘terrible price’ on past confrontations of a similar nature. The continent was used as a proxy battlefield against communism so the enemy forces had the advantage of Russian and Cuban (and Chinese?) leadership, equipment and advice (and fighters?). The USSR is no more. The State President can technically deploy SA troops but (IMO) other elements also need to be factored into the potential for civil war. Consider:

#1 Non-blacks overwhelming hold any positions in logistics involving skill. The mechanised and technical elements of the SANDF will grind to a halt rapidly. Any war effort will depend, to a great extent, on logistics, airpower and technical know-how. Non-blacks overwhelmingly, fill these positions. And if there is no competent logistics…

#2 Consider a SANDF where the embittered ‘whites’ have been passed over for promotion etc. in spite of years of loyalty (AA for MK & APLA cadres). They are not going to be loyal and perpetuate a status quo where they stand to be discriminated against.

#3 There will be tremendous negative pressure on serving whites from friends and relatives.

#4 International mercenaries would be relatively easy to recruit. Governments may deplore the civil war but, because the situation is so bad, will not make more than a token show of stopping recruitment.

#5 There will be many SA volunteers. These are not the paunchy, brandy & coke swilling indulgers of right-wing rhetoric over the braai. However repugnant their ideology is considered, many of the younger bunch were very good soldiers (the extreme right wing may offer their combat services for free).

#6. Any support will have to be clandestine or be exposed as supporting a racist, discriminatory and autocratic regime.

#7. And so on…
 
Some interesting opinions coming through on the BBC news artcile...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8602468.stm

Mr Terreblanche, who campaigned for a separate white homeland, came to prominence in the early 1980s. Race relations in South Africa are at an all time low. This sad event is just the icing in the cake to get things moving. There have been calls for open dialogue about race relations in this country, this is the time for South Africa to talk. This country has so many problems that are not being addressed properly because everybody uses the race card instead.
Siyabonga Ndlovu, Soweto

Eugene was an enemy but I also don't condone his death. One will argue this is just a conspiracy to discredit Julius Malema's racist song "Kill the boer, kill the farmer". But still I would like the leaderless ANC to refrain from this racist songs.
Itami Manganyi, Durban

His death won't affect the country at all. The circumstances surrounding his death have nothing to do with the recent utterances made by the ANC youth league, irresponsible as they may be. He had become a nonentity on the political front. The danger is 'analysts' who want to use the killing as a barometer of black and white relations and sentiments, and their influence on a sceptical white population and those who can't see the bigger picture.
Tawanda Musarurwa, Johannesburg
 
So guys the next time your boss pays you late you know what to do.

In a democratic country those killers should have taken their grievance to the courts.

I await the working week to see what happens.
 
This gvt has no right to be ruling this country and no right to be taking us down this path, I put the blame at their feet.
How dare they appeal the decision of the 2 high courts?
How dare they appeal the decision of the courts on the Afriforum issue with the legal seizure of the land in SA belonging to Zim?

The ANC are telling us something and we are just to damn stupid to see it.
 
I will ignore the troll.
I foresee the GVT watching this very carefully, they have people that are watching developments with a close eye, wanting to know if the Afrikaaner / Boere are planning anything.
Biggest problem is that in times like these their own people will sell them out if they indeed are planning anything.
I am pretty sure NIA already know exactly what is going on, on the ground.
 
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