EWC: push back: have your say

[Fulcrum29]

I submitted my public comments and recommendations to both the DA and the appropriate channel where the public participation is supposed to be sent to.

Those who submit via DearSA, I hope that the NGO will continue their good work since they are now clouded in allegations.

 

[Ykv]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1361377541131554816

I am amazed that there has not been a post explaining how sanctions are to blame.

 

[Milano]

Exposed: Eviction of Darling farmer has the markings of a political hit job

The Democratic Alliance (DA) can reveal that the group of supposed MK vets, operating under the banner of Tlhapi Zizi (Pty) Ltd, who have been allocated Mr Ivan Cloete’s farm, are ANC connected individuals and people who already own farms. This raises very serious questions on the fairness and...

www.da.org.za

18 Feb 2021 in News
The Democratic Alliance (DA) can reveal that the group of supposed MK vets, operating under the banner of Tlhapi Zizi (Pty) Ltd, who have been allocated Mr Ivan Cloete’s farm, are ANC connected individuals and people who already own farms. This raises very serious questions on the fairness and transparency of the process that was used by the Department of Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development (DALRRD) to award Mr Cloete’s Darling farm to this group.

 

[Milano]

EWC: Ramaphosa is following Mugabe’s script on land reform.

17 Feb 2021 in News

In my State of the Nation reply speech yesterday, I drew attention to the plight of coloured farmer Ivan Cloete who has been leasing and successfully farming a state-owned farm in the Darling area of the Western Cape for the past couple of years.

Two weeks ago, Mr Cloete was served with a notice of eviction by agriculture department officials and told his farm is to be handed over to an MK Veteran.

This is not an isolated incident. Many productive black farmers in the Eastern Cape and Mpumalanga are being similarly intimidated with one-week notices to vacate their farms that they lease from the state.

EWC: Ramaphosa is following Mugabe’s script on land reform.

In my State of the Nation reply speech yesterday, I drew attention to the plight of coloured farmer Ivan Cloete who has been leasing and successfully farming a state-owned farm in the Darling area of the Western Cape for the past couple of years. Two weeks ago, Mr Cloete was served with a notice of

www.da.org.za

 

[Oldfut]

Exposed: Eviction of Darling farmer has the markings of a political hit job

The Democratic Alliance (DA) can reveal that the group of supposed MK vets, operating under the banner of Tlhapi Zizi (Pty) Ltd, who have been allocated Mr Ivan Cloete’s farm, are ANC connected individuals and people who already own farms. This raises very serious questions on the fairness and...

www.da.org.za

18 Feb 2021 in News
The Democratic Alliance (DA) can reveal that the group of supposed MK vets, operating under the banner of Tlhapi Zizi (Pty) Ltd, who have been allocated Mr Ivan Cloete’s farm, are ANC connected individuals and people who already own farms. This raises very serious questions on the fairness and transparency of the process that was used by the Department of Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development (DALRRD) to award Mr Cloete’s Darling farm to this group.

I will look at the petition as its the "right thing to do" and I definitely do not support EWC as I believe its intention is to legalise the above with ANC cadres and their fellow travelers as the major beneficiaries; Zim style. All the rest is just a typical Cyril ANC mix of racism, lies and dreams.

BUT, I suspect that any objections will simply not even be read, as happened in the last round of this legalising of property theft by race.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Govt doesnt listen to "comments"

They listen to violence.

Or money

 

[Doja]

Just give them unfettered power already. The sooner we get to Zim 2.0 the sooner the message that this will not work will get through those numbskull brains.

Zim 2 is what they know...

 

[Doja]

Just give them unfettered power already. The sooner we get to Zim 2.0 the sooner the message that this will not work will get through those numbskull brains.

Zim 2 is what they know...

 

[Doja]

Just give them unfettered power already. The sooner we get to Zim 2.0 the sooner the message that this will not work will get through those numbskull brains.

Zim 2 is what they know...

 

[Doja]

Just give them unfettered power already. The sooner we get to Zim 2.0 the sooner the message that this will not work will get through those numbskull brains.

Zim 2 is what they know...

 

[Milano]

I will look at the petition as its the "right thing to do" and I definitely do not support EWC as I believe its intention is to legalise the above with ANC cadres and their fellow travelers as the major beneficiaries; Zim style. All the rest is just a typical Cyril ANC mix of racism, lies and dreams.

BUT, I suspect that any objections will simply not even be read, as happened in the last round of this legalising of property theft by race.

Agreed. The one apparent benefit I can see of this objection service is that it will keep a record of all objections. The negative is that most already will not bother with an objection so therefore there may be very low numbers of objections recorded. If I recall only something like 36,000 objections received to date. Whereas the actual number of people who object is multiples of that number but most have learnt that their voices are not heard so will not bother. It is the cycle that feeds a failed state. Realistically though trying to save people from themselves is a wasted cause. SA be damned.

(I started the post with the intention of convincing people to send their objection. I ended the post with the realisation that I actually couldn't care less)

 

[rietrot]

Did anyone comment that this is just communist nonsense and will end badly?

Then we're all good. The chances of government listing is nothing, but as long as it was said.

 

[Vrotappel]

I am amazed that there has not been a post explaining how sanctions are to blame.

That excuse has lost its shine. I see they are now trying to go back to private property rights after destroying the country.

 

[Vrotappel]

The mind boggles that EWC for these people is considered.

 

[lexity]

Oldfut said:
I will look at the petition as its the "right thing to do" and I definitely do not support EWC as I believe its intention is to legalise the above with ANC cadres and their fellow travelers as the major beneficiaries; Zim style. All the rest is just a typical Cyril ANC mix of racism, lies and dreams.

BUT, I suspect that any objections will simply not even be read, as happened in the last round of this legalising of property theft by race.

Agreed. The one apparent benefit I can see of this objection service is that it will keep a record of all objections. The negative is that most already will not bother with an objection so therefore there may be very low numbers of objections recorded. If I recall only something like 36,000 objections received to date. Whereas the actual number of people who object is multiples of that number but most have learnt that their voices are not heard so will not bother. It is the cycle that feeds a failed state. Realistically though trying to save people from themselves is a wasted cause. SA be damned.

(I started the post with the intention of convincing people to send their objection. I ended the post with the realisation that I actually couldn't care less)

DearSA doesn't do petitions.

Please see post#10, on page 1 of this thread.

And also here it is from the website:

We do not run petitions. We run legally recognised public participation processes which allow citizens to co-form policy at all levels of governance. Whereas petitions, even if they contain thousands of signatures, are considered as a single submission by government, our process ensures that each comment made through dearsouthafrica.co.za is recognised and counted as an individual submission by government.

Furthermore, we keep an accurate record of all participation and produce a publicly available report at the end of each project. This report forms the foundation of a sound legal case should the necessity to challenge the decision arise.

 

[Vrotappel]

I have provided my input however I believe that the ANC will simply ignore any input.

 

[TelkomUseless]

I have provided my input however I believe that the ANC will simply ignore any input.

Same

 

[TelkomUseless]

The mind boggles that EWC for these people is considered.
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That is what baffles me. Then you get people like @Excalibur thinking JZ etc is the chief, should be left alone. They were struggle heroes... but. they sold the country to indian immigrants... receiving millions in rands in bribes.
Keep voting ANC.

 

[DreamKing]

EWC: Ramaphosa is following Mugabe’s script on land reform.

17 Feb 2021 in News

In my State of the Nation reply speech yesterday, I drew attention to the plight of coloured farmer Ivan Cloete who has been leasing and successfully farming a state-owned farm in the Darling area of the Western Cape for the past couple of years.

Two weeks ago, Mr Cloete was served with a notice of eviction by agriculture department officials and told his farm is to be handed over to an MK Veteran.

This is not an isolated incident. Many productive black farmers in the Eastern Cape and Mpumalanga are being similarly intimidated with one-week notices to vacate their farms that they lease from the state.

EWC: Ramaphosa is following Mugabe’s script on land reform.

In my State of the Nation reply speech yesterday, I drew attention to the plight of coloured farmer Ivan Cloete who has been leasing and successfully farming a state-owned farm in the Darling area of the Western Cape for the past couple of years. Two weeks ago, Mr Cloete was served with a notice of

www.da.org.za

viva anc ...... viva .....

 

[thestaggy]

I am amazed that there has not been a post explaining how sanctions are to blame.

Wrong. Venezuela's policies are to blame.

With the global spike in the price of oil in the early 2000s, Venezuela went on a massive public spending spree, placing the government at the centre of economic activity (sound familiar?). When the oil price collapsed in 2013, so too did the Venezuelan economy. Classic case of Dutch disease. They were over-reliant on oil and government participation in the economy, so when oil collapsed the government was no longer able to spend the way it had and the underdeveloped and damaged (through their own actions) economy was left exposed and could not pick up the massive public overspending.

Under Chavez, Venezuela also imposed price controls on basic food goods that led to decreased production (price caps meant farmers would run at losses so they cut production) and subsequent food shortages. In response, Venzuela implemented expropriation without compensation, using the military to forcibly seize farm land. Land was distributed to party officials who, surprise surpise, didn't know the first thing about farming and you can guess what happened next. Venezuela's food sovereignty was compromised.

A wave of nationalisation between 2007 - 2009 across various industries saw a drastic decrease in production and economic activity. You want to hear something fun? They nationalised the previously privately-owned and largest electricity producer in the country and within a few years the grid started collapsing.

Economic policy of the Hugo Chávez administration - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Venezualan crisis started in 2010, sanctions against the country started in 2019. Venezuela spent and nationalised itself in to oblivion, the same as Zimbabwe and exactly what the ANC will to do here.

If anybody had a brain within the ANC, Venezuela would be a massive warning sign that the policies they are pursuing are doomed to fail.