Expats are trashing SA

One can't help feeling that it all boils down to the fact that a lot of them just did not like having to share their country with black people.
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Talk sh*t...Its got nothing to do with "share", but a lot to do with "humanty"

Frankly, I don't know why I get so steamed up about these jealous and clearly insecure morons who gleefully leap upon every little thing that goes wrong in this country and scream "I told you so."
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There is a major diff between " little" things and "current" things

Sit around and whinge or get off our backsides and do something about fixing it.
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Very true...Why dont the ANC do anything about it?

I left SA when I was 21 years of age and met my Australian husband not long after my travels to Papua New Guinea. We returned to SA after we were married in Australia, lived back in Cape Town, our daughter was born here... we left again in 1978 and lived in Sydney for all those years. In 2004 after many holidays with family and friends in CT we returned permanently.
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lets see what happens when the sh*t hits the fan...then itll be the 3rd time they move

Having been born in SA in 1949, I am old enough to remember the fear which gripped White south Africans at the time of Sharpeville and people were selling their magnificent farms in Stellenbosch and villas in Clifton for next to nothing - how I wish I had been old enough to buy them up - retirement now would have been a no-brainer and I could do so and live in the lap of luxury in a country which has a population of resourceful people and a climate which must be one of the best in the world!"
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uh?...come again?
 
LoneGunman said:
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I think your argument is more about trying to deal with your own inner justifications for staying.

There seems to be more good reasons for leaving South Africa, than for staying.
It seems rather unreasonable, in fact, if not almost masochistic, to choose to stay in a prison-like living environment,
with a high probability of violence erupting at you or your family, at any time.

That's not 'living' or even, by any stretch of the imagination 'a good life' - that's something else entirely.
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100% agree with you!
 
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Righty.

I've never dissed South Africa once since I left, but rather, told it how I experienced it.

Wonderful country, incredible potential, being spoilt by crime and AIDS, government not very good at tackling either or in fact, running a country.

I've told poms to definately go over for a holiday - very cheap, fantastic places to visit, just treat it with extreme caution and make sure you go on a guided tour, or have friends/family to visit who know the risks.

I inform them that, yes, you can live a decent life there under the current situation, but your 100 times more likely to be a victim of crime. I also inform people the future of the country is uncertain, but on the same token, it always has been.

I also mention that living there eventually got to me, the fact that I felt fear far too much, that I would not be able to sleep at night for worry. That I would drive past my house twice on some occasions before entering, just to be sure. In short, although I loved the country, I could no longer face what it was doing to my life.

Thing is, I'm not sure I'm an expat, unless I'm now an expat expat? (Born in UK, moved to SA when I was eight)

balance is a wonderful thing
 
why would you care so much about what someone else felt, if you didnt care so much about it yourself?
perhaps the feeling of whats being said abroad, is felt back by those back in SA?
if *what* was said didnt bother in any way - then why should those back in SA even *care* what those outside SA say / feel?
 
N1One said:
why would you care so much about what someone else felt, if you didnt care so much about it yourself?
perhaps the feeling of whats being said abroad, is felt back by those back in SA?
if *what* was said didnt bother in any way - then why should those back in SA even *care* what those outside SA say / feel?
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I don't really care what an expat in New zealand feels...Why should he care what I feel...going around in circles aren't we?
 
exactly my point.. the amount of attention to what people outside think is amazing..
though, having said that, wasnt it the "outside attention" that helped against the fight of apartheid?

Bageloo said:
I don't really care what an expat in New zealand feels...Why should he care what I feel...going around in circles aren't we?
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stefan9 said:
If South Africa ever recovers it will take 20 years at least for this to happen and that's with competent leadership.
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I am willing to be part of that 20 years to rebuild my country. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, is there?
 
i rekon the quicker that gets to be in SA the better - that we're South African, that we happen to be black or white, shouldnt make us more of a south african any less than it should make us less of a south african. A black Brazilian calls himself Brazilian, and a white Brazilian calls himself a Brazillian too - and guess what - they're both Brazillian - way too much black = this , white = that within SA - the quicker that becomes less - the quicker all the other proper issues can be resolved - too easy to point one way or the other - & guess what, still same problem remains in the end just with peoples fingers all pointing at each other .. just my R0.02 .



dlk001 said:
Indeed!
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Heita_Hola said:
I am willing to be part of that 20 years to rebuild my country. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, is there?
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No nothing wrong with it , very noble of you. It's just a different view point. You see SA as part of yourself while for me SA is just a place I was born. I don't see a piece of land as part of myself.

You are willing to give up a big junk of your life in the hope that you can help turn SA around. I am unwilling to take that risk since I don't see it as a calculated risk, I see it as a big gamble.
 
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stefan9 said:
You see SA as part of yourself while for me SA is just a place I was born. I don't see a piece of land as part of myself.

You are willing to give up a big junk of your life in the hope that you can help turn SA around. I am unwilling to take that risk since I don't see it as a calculated risk, I see it as a big gamble.
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Building a country is not giving up "a big junk of your life", I don't think. I guess u only want to go to a country where someone else has already built for u. I thick I understand that.
 
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