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Agree I don't think Americans will care much. Sorry to say that it's been a bit of an embarrassment. They still prefer Hamilton.
 
Dave said:
One of the best articles I’ve seen about the autistic spoilt brat of F1.

www.planetf1.com

Why is it so difficult to apologise for crashing into Daniel Ricciardo, Lance Stroll?

Lance Stroll doubled down on pointing the finger at everyone but himself after driving into someone else under the Safety Car.
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Stroll snr surely can't be serious about this team if he continues to keep his son in that seat. I know that he has said numerous times that he is committed to bringing Aston up to a winning team yada yada, but as long as his idiotic son is there they will never be a championship contending team.

He has no motivation to do better because he is not fighting for a seat. Everyone else apart from Max and Lewis is continuously fighting to be there year on year and that brings out the best in them. Some fall away and others excel, but at least they are trying to be better.
 
dotdan said:
Stroll snr surely can't be serious about this team if he continues to keep his son in that seat. I know that he has said numerous times that he is committed to bringing Aston up to a winning team yada yada, but as long as his idiotic son is there they will never be a championship contending team.

He has no motivation to do better because he is not fighting for a seat. Everyone else apart from Max and Lewis is continuously fighting to be there year on year and that brings out the best in them. Some fall away and others excel, but at least they are trying to be better.
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My gut is that Lance's roll will remain until the goal is greater than 5th in the championship and they have a car which is winning races and he isn't on the podium. Until then excuses and benefit of the doubt will always be in Lance's favour.
 
quovadis said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1782864722536112232

Interesting even if a rumour.
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Williams past drivers:

Patrick Neve
Clay Regazzoni
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann
Mario Andretti
Derek Daly
Jacques Laffite
Keke Rosberg
Nelson Piquet
Martin Brundle
Jean-Louis Schlesser
Thierry Boutsen
Riccardo Patrese
Alain Prost
Ayrton Senna
Nigel Mansell
David Coulthard
Damon Hill
Jacques Villeneuve
Heinz-Harald Frentzen
Alessandro Zanardi
Jenson Button
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya
Marc Gene
Antonio Pizzonia
Nick Heidfeld
Mark Webber
Alexander Wurz
Kazuki Nakajima
Nico Hulkenberg
Rubens Barrichello
Bruno Senna
Pastor Maldonado
Valtteri Bottas
Felipe Massa
Paul di Resta
Lance Stroll
Sergey Sirotkin
Robert Kubica
George Russell
Nicholas Latifi
Nyck de Vries
Alexander Albon
Logan Sargeant
 
lkpat said:
Williams past drivers:

Patrick Neve
Clay Regazzoni
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann
Mario Andretti
Derek Daly
Jacques Laffite
Keke Rosberg
Nelson Piquet
Martin Brundle
Jean-Louis Schlesser
Thierry Boutsen
Riccardo Patrese
Alain Prost
Ayrton Senna
Nigel Mansell
David Coulthard
Damon Hill
Jacques Villeneuve
Heinz-Harald Frentzen
Alessandro Zanardi
Jenson Button
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya
Marc Gene
Antonio Pizzonia
Nick Heidfeld
Mark Webber
Alexander Wurz
Kazuki Nakajima
Nico Hulkenberg
Rubens Barrichello
Bruno Senna
Pastor Maldonado
Valtteri Bottas
Felipe Massa
Paul di Resta
Lance Stroll
Sergey Sirotkin
Robert Kubica
George Russell
Nicholas Latifi
Nyck de Vries
Alexander Albon
Logan Sargeant
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It's crazy to look at that list, think of their past successes and then see them floundering like a rookie team.
 
quovadis said:
My gut is that Lance's roll will remain until the goal is greater than 5th in the championship and they have a car which is winning races and he isn't on the podium. Until then excuses and benefit of the doubt will always be in Lance's favour.
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Or forever, if the team principal can be believed.

Stroll’s own future – being on a rolling contract racing for the team owned by his billionaire father – isn’t yet confirmed, but Mike Krack said there’s no doubt where the Canadian driver will be if he wants to be there.

“We know that Aston Martin is Lance’s home,” Krack said, coming into the Chinese Grand Prix.

“We know that and the whole project has always been around him.
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UrBaN963 said:
It's crazy to look at that list, think of their past successes and then see them floundering like a rookie team.
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They need a racer foremost as a team boss. Vowles may be great for the business end but he sounds like he's responding as part of a case study on corporate management with the simplest of questions. Almost as if the lesson is get the processes in place and they'll win races. That team has suffered from years of extremes in management and hasn't found the sweet spot.
 
quovadis said:
They need a racer foremost as a team boss. Vowles may be great for the business end but he sounds like he's responding as part of a case study on corporate management with the simplest of questions. Almost as if the lesson is get the processes in place and they'll win races. That team has suffered from extremes in management and hasn't found the sweet spot.
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To be fair, Claire killed them when Frank moved on
 
Sinbad said:
To be fair, Claire killed them when Frank moved on
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she inherited a broken team and made it worse for sure.

she is not responsible for it on her own, but she was not able to make the changes needed to rescue the team.

there is potential for williams to be fighting at the front again, but I feel much like Mclaren they will never be able to compete at the sharp end unless they get a power unit supplier that is not already a constructor.
and just because you are a constructor does not mean you will do well. I mean look at Alpine.

but when is the last time a team had a world champion running an engine that was made by another team? you can argue 2011 was RB in a REnault engine and there was a Renault Lotus but both teams were customers neither was the constructor.
 
Baxteen said:
there is potential for williams to be fighting at the front again, but I feel much like Mclaren they will never be able to compete at the sharp end unless they get a power unit supplier that is not already a constructor.
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What are you on about, Mclaren is ahead of Merc and has been for some time now...
 
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