F1 - General discussion and 2017

Dave said:
This guy needs some lessons in how to write clearly, but it seems the rules on moving under braking have been amended this year, so some moving is allowed, unless the stewards deem it dangerous.



http://www.pitpass.com/58587/FIA-drops-Verstappen-rule
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God forbid something happens this year with the shorter braking distances and drivers now being allowed to move under braking.
 
Dave said:
That's a good point, it seems a recipe for accidents when you pair the two.
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Not that I wish harm on anybody but F1 is meant to be dangerous.
If the cars have greater speed and shorter braking distance then it is up to the driver to use those attributes wisely.
It is not in the interest of anyone, fans, sponsors or drivers, to have the rules set such that they can drive flat out with zero risk.
 
caroper said:
Not that I wish harm on anybody but F1 is meant to be dangerous.
If the cars have greater speed and shorter braking distance then it is up to the driver to use those attributes wisely.
It is not in the interest of anyone, fans, sponsors or drivers, to have the rules set such that they can drive flat out with zero risk.
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But it isn't a place for drivers to be swerving around as another car is coming from behind under braking and trying to pass
 
Dave said:
But it isn't a place for drivers to be swerving around as another car is coming from behind under braking and trying to pass
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But they have not said it is legal to do that, just that it is now lumped in with dangerous tactics rather than individually stated.
Now it is even easier for the Stewarts to penalise because it is a broader definition.
That should discourage it, I doubt the new ruling will encourage it.
 
caroper said:
But they have not said it is legal to do that, just that it is now lumped in with dangerous tactics rather than individually stated.
Now it is even easier for the Stewarts to penalise because it is a broader definition.
That should discourage it, I doubt the new ruling will encourage it.
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Hopefully you're right and Charlie Whiting hasn't just muddied the waters even more.
 
So no links and no ideas posted from sites. What is the ideas of the people here for the weekend?
I am a Mclaren fan but their testing was not very promising. Would be up to Mercedes, Ferrari and Redbull.
Hamilton has a new teammate and this could make things interesting, would they keep the inter-team racing or would Bottas just be the whipping boy?
 
Sugarman said:
So no links and no ideas posted from sites. What is the ideas of the people here for the weekend?
I am a Mclaren fan but their testing was not very promising. Would be up to Mercedes, Ferrari and Redbull.
Hamilton has a new teammate and this could make things interesting, would they keep the inter-team racing or would Bottas just be the whipping boy?
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Bottas is a good driver, I expect him to be competitive with Hamilton.
 
Dave said:
Bottas is a good driver, I expect him to be competitive with Hamilton.
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That would be good, and a good races for the season, really hope the Boss of Mercedes do not throttle Bottas and keep him as a whipping boy and "blocker" for Hamilton to win
 
There was some good racing between Hamilton and Rosberg, skeptical that Mercedes F1 would allow it again
 
Lewis Hamilton: Ferrari are F1 title favourites, says Mercedes driver

Ferrari are favourites to win the Formula 1 world title as the new season starts in Australia this weekend, says three-time champion Lewis Hamilton.

Hamilton's Mercedes team have dominated for the past three seasons but pre-season testing suggested Ferrari have bounced back from a winless 2016.

"I see Ferrari being quickest," he said. "They are definitely favourites."

But Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel said Mercedes were the team to beat, adding: "We are doing our best to catch up."

The new cars that will race at Melbourne's Albert Park and for the rest of the season will be considerably quicker than last year's after major rule changes aimed at making them faster and more demanding.

But Vettel said that made no difference to Mercedes' position after three dominant seasons, since the introduction of turbo-hybrid engines in 2014, in which Hamilton won two titles and Nico Rosberg the other.

Vettel said: "Mercedes have been very strong and even if you change the rules if a team is strong they will build a strong car.

"Looking at the performance of the cars, it was expected to be a big step up. And that's what we all said when we got out for the first time.

"I think they will be the fastest cars we have ever driven. it is nice to have that. Competitiveness? We are all here to find out."

Lewis Hamilton: Ferrari are F1 title favourites, says Mercedes driver


By Andrew Benson
Chief F1 writer in Melbourne
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Ferrari are favourites to win the Formula 1 world title as the new season starts in Australia this weekend, says three-time champion Lewis Hamilton.

Hamilton's Mercedes team have dominated for the past three seasons but pre-season testing suggested Ferrari have bounced back from a winless 2016.

"I see Ferrari being quickest," he said. "They are definitely favourites."

But Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel said Mercedes were the team to beat, adding: "We are doing our best to catch up."

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The new cars that will race at Melbourne's Albert Park and for the rest of the season will be considerably quicker than last year's after major rule changes aimed at making them faster and more demanding.

But Vettel said that made no difference to Mercedes' position after three dominant seasons, since the introduction of turbo-hybrid engines in 2014, in which Hamilton won two titles and Nico Rosberg the other.

Vettel said: "Mercedes have been very strong and even if you change the rules if a team is strong they will build a strong car.

"Looking at the performance of the cars, it was expected to be a big step up. And that's what we all said when we got out for the first time.

"I think they will be the fastest cars we have ever driven. it is nice to have that. Competitiveness? We are all here to find out."


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'I have never seen the fans so excited'

The season starts without the reigning champion on the track for the first time since 1994, when Alain Prost retired after winning his fourth title. Following Rosberg's retirement, Finn Valtteri Bottas will partner Hamilton.

Hamilton, 32, said: "It doesn't make any difference to me. Every year is a brand new challenge. You just want to beat whoever it is you're up against and the bigger the fight the more satisfying it is.

"I have never seen the fans as excited [as they are] about this year, not knowing where the cars and teams are. More of these changes would be welcome. Maybe they should shorten the time between rule changes."

Hamilton said he would relish a fight for the title with Vettel, who won four consecutive championships with Red Bull from 2010-13.

And the Briton added he would like to see old rival Fernando Alonso back in a competitive car, which seems a forlorn hope given a dire pre-season for the 35-year-old Spaniard's McLaren-Honda team.

"I have not had a lot of battles with Sebastian on track, and I would love that and the fans would too," Hamilton said. "And for him [Alonso] to be up there, too, before his time is up. I would love that. We haven't seen the best of Fernando."

Hamilton added he was also wary of the threat from Red Bull drivers Daniel Ricciardo, 27, and 19-year-old Max Verstappen.

"I am very keen to see what Red Bull bring because they were quite far behind in testing compared to Ferrari," Hamilton said.

"I didn't see many upgrades and I am excited to see what they bring here."
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Source, BBC Sport: http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/39359382
 
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