Fifa World Cup 2026

I'll introduce you to the Italians.

Match fixing and corruption is endemic in football. FIFA itself is filthy. With the amount of money involved in football and the sport's close relationship with betting companies through high profile sponsorships, the issue has most certainly not gone away.

I never though the Last Boy Scout would be a documentary.
 
I'll introduce you to the Italians.

Match fixing and corruption is endemic in football. FIFA itself is filthy.

Just to rephrase. Fifa cannot fix the tournament with a predetermined winner.

Players or teams can lose on purpose for money in shít leagues, that is unlikely at the top level they are well paid and extremely competitive so they want to win.
 
Soccer cannot be "fixed". If a ball is in the net and a goal has been scored it is very obvious.

etc etc
 
Just to rephrase. Fifa cannot fix the tournament with a predetermined winner.

Players or teams can lose on purpose for money in shít leagues, that is unlikely at the top level they are well paid and extremely competitive so they want to win.


Juventus, the most successful club in Italy, along with AC Milan (only Real Madrid has won more European titles), Lazio and Fiorentina were involved in one of football's biggest match-fixing scandals that even involved politicians. These are some of the highest profile clubs in the world, and especially at the time of the scandal when Italian clubs were still among Europe's heavyweights. Italy would win the 2006 FIFA World Cup while this was all unravelling.

You may not be able to fix the winner, but in a hypothetical scenario, one or more teams can receive favourable officiating that gets them far into the tournament. This is something that may have happened in 2002 when South Korea made the semi-finals with some questionable officiating on the way. In the group stage, Portugal picked up two soft red cards against the Koreans. Against Italy in the Round of 16, the Italians had multiple goals disallowed and had a player sent off for a dive in a loss to the Koreans. In the quarters, Spain had two goals disallowed, resulting in Korea knocking them out on penalties.
 

Juventus, the most successful club in Italy, along with AC Milan (only Real Madrid has won more European titles), Lazio and Fiorentina were involved in one of football's biggest match-fixing scandals that even involved politicians. These are some of the highest profile clubs in the world, and especially at the time of the scandal when Italian clubs were still among Europe's heavyweights. Italy would win the 2006 FIFA World Cup while this was all unravelling.

You may not be able to fix the winner, but in a hypothetical scenario, one or more teams can receive favourable officiating that gets them far into the tournament. This is something that may have happened in 2002 when South Korea made the semi-finals with some questionable officiating on the way. In the group stage, Portugal picked up two soft red cards against the Koreans. Against Italy in the Round of 16, the Italians had multiple goals disallowed and had a player sent off for a dive in a loss to the Koreans. In the quarters, Spain had two goals disallowed, resulting in Korea knocking them out on penalties.
Okay guys all the archeology is silly.

If you believe the world cup is fixed what are you even doing here?
 
Okay guys all the archeology is silly.

If you believe the world cup is fixed what are you even doing here?
That's the question I was asking, are we just wasting our time? That incident was at the very least supposed to be reviewed by VAR, the ref can then decide that he still doesn't award the penalty, to just go on as if nothing happened is exceptionally odd
 
Okay guys all the archeology is silly.

If you believe the world cup is fixed what are you even doing here?

It isn't archeology,

The head of referees in Italy suspended himself in April of this year because of allegations of " complicity in sporting fraud".

It is alleged that Rocchi was behind the selection of a referee for an Inter Milan game as he was "liked by Inter". A video assistant referee decision not to intervene when an Inter player elbowed an opponent in another game is also under scrutiny.

This is the man who appointed referees in Serie A, Italy's top flight, which has a long history of match-fixing and corruption.

I did not claim that this World Cup is fixed, I responded to your claim that soccer cannot be fixed when it evidently has been and continues to be (the links provided and the above linked article point to this being an ongoing problem at the highest levels).

My position is the game is dirty and FIFA along with the regional governing bodies (UEFA, CAF, etc) are all deeply corrupt(able) organisations. If something doesn't smell right, don't be surprised if it isn't.

Football's deepening - and problematic - relationship with betting companies isn't a good look either. Aside from the hypocrisy that tobacco and alcohol sponsorship is banned and not gambling, the relationship presents a very clear conflict of interest.
 
The game will start about 8:00 my time.

Still debating with myself if I'm going to do a full spoiler free watch. That will be annoying if they lost or play badly.
 
Football's deepening - and problematic - relationship with betting companies isn't a good look either. Aside from the hypocrisy that tobacco and alcohol sponsorship is banned and not gambling, the relationship presents a very clear conflict of interest.
Well said, it is a problem that's hard to dismiss.
 
Oh, England doesn't know how to score. One could argue that Ghana was impressive keeping the English out, but when you see the stats, ouch. So much, but nothing. The England team isn't going to sleep well.
Ghana's performance was the most haramball thing I've ever seen (and I'm a Gooner). It wasn't because England can't score (having got 4 in the previous game). It was because Ghana's gameplan was simply to stop them from playing at all costs, and then hope for a fast counter (which they had a few times). It was 100% antifootball from Queiroz.
 
That was the biggest pisstake so far: they had just come back from a 4 minute injury break, played for a couple of minutes, and then the ref blew for the ad break. Same thing in the second half: just had a lengthy injury (during which the players again went to the touchline to speak to their managers and have a drink), and then the ref blew for the ad break. Can't wait until football goes back to normal.
 
That's the question I was asking, are we just wasting our time? That incident was at the very least supposed to be reviewed by VAR, the ref can then decide that he still doesn't award the penalty, to just go on as if nothing happened is exceptionally odd
They review every incident. Just because the match isn't stopped doesn't mean they're not doing it. This isn't rugby.
 
Unfortunate that the Bafana match is on so late. I expect a very open and entertaining game, we'll be going hell for leather, and I think that will play into SK style unfortunately. South Korea to take it 2 - 1, or 3 - 1.
 
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