Firefox usage

I have Mozilla 1.7.5 which is as close to Firefox as it gets.

I tried Leechget, nice interface, but it hangs up my machine when it gets too many files in the queue. I also found it quite invasive in the way it launches itself and intercepts downloads. Got into a problem where it kept crashing and freezing my OS before I could deactivate it. Eventually had to bin it (and remove it from my hard drive).

On the other hand, Net Transport is great, free, and spyware free. It handles a large number of files very well. And it really does fly.
 
GimmeMore said:
It is quite funny how accomodating people can be with non Microsoft software.
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Yeah, it's funny how people have to put up with the security risks and non-standards compliant nature of microsoft software ...

GimmeMore said:
Firefox is not a bad browser at all, specifically the ability to open links in a new tab. There are quite a few sites on which the menus don't work properly and the buttons wont respond.
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Yes, that's true, it's a legacy of the lack of standards adhered to when the browser "wars" between Netscape and Iexplore were still going on.

When iexplore conclusively won and from late 1999 there wasn't much point in using Netscape as a windows user, web designers threw standards to the winds and used proprietry iexplore features, or features that were simply not implemented according to standards.

So, you will find websites that occassionally will not work properly in Firefox.

This IS the fault of those websites, because you will find they won't work in Any other browser, or hand held device, or, where applicable, for the handi-capped - the code locks you into one devise and standards be damned.

What Firefox do is to closely adhere to the standards laid out be the w3c (http://www.w3.org/) - this organisation is there to promote websites viewable on as many platforms as possible via the use of a set of standards.

So, if you come across a site that doesn't function in Firefox, know that the developer didn't bother to ensure the site is standardised.
 
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gooku said:
Can someone pls tell me ,which download manger intergrate best with Firefox ?

My flashget does not have right click option for download in Firefox .
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You can install the "flashgot" extension, it will allow you to right click for any of the following (if they are installed) Flashget, leechget, getright and netransport.
 
Gatecrasher said:
I have Mozilla 1.7.5 which is as close to Firefox as it gets.

I tried Leechget, nice interface, but it hangs up my machine when it gets too many files in the queue. I also found it quite invasive in the way it launches itself and intercepts downloads. Got into a problem where it kept crashing and freezing my OS before I could deactivate it. Eventually had to bin it (and remove it from my hard drive).

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Gatecrasher, I had some problems with leechget opening ports in a way that my firewall identified as a trojan attack when i tried to create too many threads (8 or more). However for basic usage I haven't had any problems, Intercepting of downloads can be set in the options.

I usually use the flashgot extension which allows me to allocate a dl manager to every download...thus I have had leechget, nettransport and getright all running simultaneously...
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Firefox does not save web pages with correct title !

If I try to save a page from this forum it saves as "read.php.htm " instead of "MYADSL -....topic " !!!!

Any known cure ?
 
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gooku said:
Firefox does not save web pages with correct title !

If I try to save a page from this forum it saves as "read.php.htm " instead of "MYADSL -....topic " !!!!

Any known cure ?
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yea, use IE :D
 
Flashgot is Brilliant, makes my life alot easier.

However the problems with certain webpages do bother me a little. On rare occasions I need to start up IE to get things done.

Still Firefox is streets ahead of IE and its ultimately up to web developers to conform to W3C etc.

With time and more users moving away from IE websites will slowly start conforming.
 
alchamy said:
Flashgot is Brilliant, makes my life alot easier.

However the problems with certain webpages do bother me a little. On rare occasions I need to start up IE to get things done.

Still Firefox is streets ahead of IE and its ultimately up to web developers to conform to W3C etc.

With time and more users moving away from IE websites will slowly start conforming.
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Are there any tangible reasons why you should think that FireFox is streets ahead of IE except for the fact that it is not a Microsoft product.

As far as the security aspect is conecerned it is still a bit early to start punting that, wait till FireFox have been around for a while. I think it is way too soon to make any judgement calls as it takes time before any vulnerabilities are exposed. I also think a lot of hackers is biased in targeting Microsoft products.
 
GimmeMore, Firefox has been around as mozilla for a good few years.

Look, nobody here is dissing iexplore, we're just dropping it because it's insecure and outdated, non-standards compliant and platform independent.

iexplore still has the lions share of the market by a big margin.

What I like is the fact that firefox is an Open Source initiative - I love that fact that anyone can download the source code and meddle around with it and use it for other projects.

It has NOTHING to do with microsoft - it's simply a better product, imho.

That is coming from someone who was a stalwart Netscape supporter until I saw the light finally in 1998/9 that Netscape had it's butt kicked by iexplore.
I then turned to iexplore and used it solidly for 4 years.

I'm not saying Firefox has kicked iexplores butt - clearly it hasn't, but it's a 100% viable alternative, which is always a good thing.

I just got tired of "taming" iexplore to prevent **** from happening, got tired of installing third party software and tired of the fact that no new features were being added.

During that time, I was watching mozilla and trying it every so often - I started downloading mozilla from the 0.1 release when it really sucked and downloaded every release religiously from then - still I never gave up on iexplore.
Eventually, Mozilla started growing on me and firefox became my default browser early last year.

I still crank up iexplore as I'm a web developer, so I need to.
 
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VQuest said:
I finally installed FireFox yesterday for the first time. So far I'm very pleased.
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I did it today...and I am veeeery pleased. I should have done this earlier and could have avoided so many IE crashes.
 
alchamy said:
Flashgot is Brilliant, makes my life alot easier.

However the problems with certain webpages do bother me a little. On rare occasions I need to start up IE to get things done.

Still Firefox is streets ahead of IE and its ultimately up to web developers to conform to W3C etc.

With time and more users moving away from IE websites will slowly start conforming.
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I run and host (and develop) several websites. I have stats running 24/7 and thus far 96% of all users use IE.

The thing is, although I do conform with W3C standards (hard not to, especially if you're a serious developer) it is hard to miss the fact that both Mozilla and IE went and did their own things.

It is laughable at how many times Mircosoft submitted idea/components to W3C and how many times they rejected it, even after Microsoft went ahead and implemented it as standard anyway.

a Couple of XML "standards" pops into my mind when I think about it.

This is also the famous <div> agains <layer> tag battle. In the end it was easier (and saved more time) in developing for only IE (according to my constant research) than to compensate for the odd user with a Mozilla browser.

With this in mind, please also realize that the site I developed, grew from a turnover of 990k in december 2002, to over 23mil in december 2004. And no complaints of browser compatibility... yet.

However. I'm busy on several other projects, and seeing how cool Firefox is, I'm slowly building in modular based access into my web apps so that if/when I decide to include FireFox support, it will take me several minutes instead of days.

I just want to see FireFox grow before making a judgement call. Thank *** people like Microsoft aren't in charge of creating the next generation standards. Anyone with an idea can go, and panel decides whether or not it's viable solution.

Anyway, nuff ramblin, bring on the porn....
 
I have implemented most functions which I had with IE in Firefox. Nearly all plugins can be found. I am very happy with Firefox.
 
What's nice is that Mozilla is silently supporting some IE-only implementations - document.all[] is a typical one...
 
bb_matt, I agree with you, I am using FireFox myself as well, due to the fact that it is quite fast and has some nice features. I have not dumped IE yet as there is still quite a few sites in which it does not work properly. On the Discovery site for instance the menus are stuffed up completely, ITWeb on the other hand renders completely different for IE and FireFox.

I am just irritated by people that benefitted from Microsoft technology but keep on knocking it just for the sake of knocking it. I don't agree with their policies and admint that some of there software has serious security flaws, but thanks to their technology, myself toghether with millions of people have got jobs. They also are not protecting their products to such an extent that nobody are able to test it when required.
 
GimmeMore said:
I am just irritated by people that benefitted from Microsoft technology but keep on knocking it just for the sake of knocking it. I don't agree with their policies and admint that some of there software has serious security flaws, but thanks to their technology, myself toghether with millions of people have got jobs. They also are not protecting their products to such an extent that nobody are able to test it when required.
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Agreed. However, IE is a stagnant product. That is where Firefox is making the grade... for me it has nothing to do with Microsoft. Excel still beats the crap out of Calc, IME.
 
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