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Erm, how did that answer my question?
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Erm, how did that answer my question?
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Fudzy
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Nevermind found one:
http://www.tuxdistro.com/torrents-details.php?id=1323
Downloading now, will let you know how it compares to Windows 7 shortly.
http://www.tuxdistro.com/torrents-details.php?id=1323
Downloading now, will let you know how it compares to Windows 7 shortly.
MightyMuffinMan
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Seems like a Microsoft fan boy article. Very little impartiality.
Please note that linux achieves to do what it wants ie a free totally customisable OS.
If you want a new look (google for 1) or simple create your own. Remember new look linux is being worked on but will only be released when guys have tested it. Unlike microsoft cant charge people to test thier stuff.
Also OpenOffic is free (mirror.ac.za) and you can set it to save in .doc format. As for docx (office 2007) format no one uses it as Office 2007 is to expensive and not widely supported.
Please note that linux achieves to do what it wants ie a free totally customisable OS.
If you want a new look (google for 1) or simple create your own. Remember new look linux is being worked on but will only be released when guys have tested it. Unlike microsoft cant charge people to test thier stuff.
Also OpenOffic is free (mirror.ac.za) and you can set it to save in .doc format. As for docx (office 2007) format no one uses it as Office 2007 is to expensive and not widely supported.
We will see in a years time whether you and the article is spot on. Talking about fanboys
I seem to have hit a nerve!
d0b33
Honorary Master
Is this guy serious?
Gnome may look dated but kde4 has a modern UI and can be loaded on ubuntu, also you have emerald themes that enhance gnome.
BTW if you want gnome to look modern just make the panels transparent and enable effects.
... never used gnome, will have a look, but other than that I also think Ubuntu and Kubuntu looks dated!
adrianx
Expert Member
My computer is the best! It has a see-trough case with little blue light thingees that flash on and of. And the cables are luminous green. I'm going to put some Christmas lights is there as well.
Praeses
Executive Member
Stock KDE4 looks pretty nice if you ask me. Emerald is overkill in my opinion. It's an OS, not a fancy game 
<moLe>
Expert Member
God..you guys are like fcking girls...sure I care about how my OS looks to degree but that sure as hell is not enough motivation for me to fork out x amount of bucks just for looks...linux will atleast have one fan until the day I peck over for some reason or another..my reason is not just because of its apearances, god no..its not even got anything to do with the user friendliness of it..I like it, i like it due to the fact that it empowers me and gives me the power neccesary to make my computer do what I do, not what uncle bill and his kernel stipulates I must do. I like it because there is few programs out there as powerfull as the bash shell, I like the complete and ultimate customability of the OS, I like my 18sec startup time (gentoo) on my laptop.
And I'm sure I am not the only oke out there who doesnt pull a Paris hilton and complain about "oh my gosh that button is fugly"..no and if I do then I fcking go and find another theme which is more my style...this is a ridiculous article, windows 7 is great but doesnt have the whoo hoo required to kill linux, maybe just stump its growth or at best make linux loose one or two okes to the hailed 7...
And I'm sure I am not the only oke out there who doesnt pull a Paris hilton and complain about "oh my gosh that button is fugly"..no and if I do then I fcking go and find another theme which is more my style...this is a ridiculous article, windows 7 is great but doesnt have the whoo hoo required to kill linux, maybe just stump its growth or at best make linux loose one or two okes to the hailed 7...
d0b33
Honorary Master
How is this dated?...
My KDE4...
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/718/desk.jpeg
Compiz switching between TV and window...(and this is without breaking a sweat, CPU and GPU are not stressed at all, they flip like butter)
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/500/snapshot2.jpg
BTW Gnome is what Ubuntu uses, so how can you claim Ubuntu to be dated when you have not used Gnome?
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compiz puts Win7 to shame. And though I am a Linux user you can search this site to see that I was reasonably impressed by the Win7 beta before the public one. The ability to customize a Linux desktop environment will probably ensure it is at least level with other OSes
Rinkhals
Senior Member
I had about 30 Linux machines running Ubuntu (not my favourite distro, but it works).
I had 3 machines running XP.
The Windows machines were always getting viruses.
Nobody had a problem using the Ubuntu machines.
A few complained a little at the start, but they soon got used to it. And they always had the opportunity to use the XP machines.
I don't think the issue is about what percentage of the desktop market, it's whether you can recommend a Linux Desktop in a corporate environment without losing credibility.
I had 3 machines running XP.
The Windows machines were always getting viruses.
Nobody had a problem using the Ubuntu machines.
A few complained a little at the start, but they soon got used to it. And they always had the opportunity to use the XP machines.
I don't think the issue is about what percentage of the desktop market, it's whether you can recommend a Linux Desktop in a corporate environment without losing credibility.
Wogan
Well-Known Member
Lol. FYI, DocX is an XML based storage system - just like ODT, the native storage format of OpenOffice. In fact, I was able to open DocX and XlsX files in OpenOffice2.3 before I was even able to open them in Office2003.
Don't believe me? Use the console to rename a .docx file to .zip, open it, and watch what happens
Wogan
Well-Known Member
Is that the only reason?
http://win-bash.sourceforge.net/
http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/bash/
http://www.cygwin.com/
You know, realistically, desktop users probably only dislike Windows because Microsoft made it, and because all the other cool people out there have a grudge against Bill for no apparent reason.
adrianx
Expert Member
Though I was a bit more than just a desktop user alone, the main reason why I decided to get rid of Windows over two years ago, was because of malware/spyware/viruses.... My copy of AVG had expired (the full one that includes a firewall) and I became sick of being held hostage - if you don't pay up, we won't protect you any more. Sounds a bit like the Mafia.
I also became tired of searching dodgy sites for free software. It's a very risky practice. In Linux, it's far easier to get software from trusted sources - e.g., from your own distribution's repositories. I wasn't in control of my own PC to the extent that I am now.
Many people that I know that praise Microsoft, have mostly pirated software installed on their computers. Anyone that falls into that category, has no say! Don't tell my how great Photoshop Pro is, how fantastic Office xxxx is, how unbelievable <insert stolen software> is, if you didn't pay for everything in full.
So, my decision was not based on irrational hatred of M$ alone.
d0b33
Honorary Master
+1 QFT
Paying for Vista HP costs about R1500, now I need to fork out the same to get the next less buggy Vista 7 HP in a few months time.. with the same cash I could get myself a decent LCD that will last me 5 Years minimum and in that time will have gone through all the latest versions of Linux at no cost.
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Kloofvreter
Honorary Master
The fact that it is pirated does not make it inferior. In fact, Linux fanbois keep harping on the fact that Linux is free.
The fact that it is pirated does not make it inferior. In fact, Linux fanbois keep harping on the fact that Linux is free.
Maybe the fact that it was pirated doesn't make it inferior, but it does mean that you didn't think it was worth the cost.
At least with Linux you have an opportunity to contribute to the community by improving a product. If you didn't contribute to an open-source project, you can't really complain about missing features. The people that work on that specific project, implements features they find useful first. If you need a feature, nothing but your programming skills stands between you and that feature.
It all boils down to something very simple.
Teachers know Windows.
The schools wants something low cost to implement at schools
Linux is free, but Microsoft (clever as they are) make their products available free of charge to schools here and elsewhere. What will the teachers opt to use, something they know, or the other product they don't know?
Windows is implemented, kids learn it and most of them will never have the stomach to try anything else because in the world of the familiar, he who creates the familiar is king.
Linux does have its market because those are people who need it for something it does best, including affordable server OS functionality etc...
If Linux can crack schools, then it can crack Microsoft...
Teachers know Windows.
The schools wants something low cost to implement at schools
Linux is free, but Microsoft (clever as they are) make their products available free of charge to schools here and elsewhere. What will the teachers opt to use, something they know, or the other product they don't know?
Windows is implemented, kids learn it and most of them will never have the stomach to try anything else because in the world of the familiar, he who creates the familiar is king.
Linux does have its market because those are people who need it for something it does best, including affordable server OS functionality etc...
If Linux can crack schools, then it can crack Microsoft...
The biggest challenge for linux is vendor support. There are a lot of great open source apps out there, but I'm sorry, there is nothing that's as complete as applications like Photoshop or Premiere, and many other professional applications that are vital to many industries these days that only run on Windows (or Mac). Beyond software, hardware vendor support is also needed. Right now the situation of hardware drivers is like this:
* The hardware vendors write drivers for Windows for their own hardware.
* The linux community writes drivers for linux for the hardware vendors, often having to resort to reverse engineering Windows drivers because vendors won't even release hardware documentation!
There are some notable exceptions to the above, but in the majority of cases the open source community gets zero support from all but a few vendors.
Linux is so close to breaking through as a complete alternative to Windows, but it will continue to struggle as long as the majority of vendors fail to recognise it as something they should support. What's sad is that articles like this don't exactly help.
* The hardware vendors write drivers for Windows for their own hardware.
* The linux community writes drivers for linux for the hardware vendors, often having to resort to reverse engineering Windows drivers because vendors won't even release hardware documentation!
There are some notable exceptions to the above, but in the majority of cases the open source community gets zero support from all but a few vendors.
Linux is so close to breaking through as a complete alternative to Windows, but it will continue to struggle as long as the majority of vendors fail to recognise it as something they should support. What's sad is that articles like this don't exactly help.