Gaming Laptop help

Barbarian Conan said:
Firstly, when a laptop gets hot, the GPU and CPU will slow down until the temperatures get into the more reasonable range. It shouldn't be an issue if you have a proper gaming laptop and you use it on a desk. Unless it uses the new Intel CPUs.

Previously, if I had to buy a gaming laptop, the Asus would have been it. After that video, and Asus' warranty issues, I wouldn't touch Asus. Look at Gamer's Nexus' youtube coverage.

Keep in mind that a laptop RTX 4060 is not a desktop RTX 4060. I don't know how accurate this is, but it seems a mobile 4080 is slower than a 4060Ti desktop:

RTX 4080 Mobile vs 4060 [6-Benchmark Showdown]

NVIDIA RTX 4060 vs RTX 4080 Mobile: technical specs, games and benchmarks.
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UserBenchmark: Nvidia RTX 4060-Ti vs 4080 (Laptop)

gpu.userbenchmark.com

UserBenchmark is crap and can't be trusted (especially wrt AMD), but it's one of the few sources that compares gaming vs desktop parts. That is because it really makes no sense. There is no comparison.

Same with CPUs. Laptop CPUs are slow as hell compared to desktop.

Laptop gaming will see you playing on a 16" or 15" screen, unless you buy a separate monitor, like with a desktop. Same with keyboard. Same with mouse.

I have a work laptop with a 3060 that I installed some games on. I used it to game maybe twice. The only benefit it has is if you travel frequently and will end up being where there's a desk with power nearby. How often do you game away from your desk?

If you want mobile gaming, Steam Deck is where it's at, but that's another story.
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Thanks bro, appreciate the details response and great information you shared
 
Slckrck said:
Sometimes a laptop is just more convenient than a whole desktop setup. Besides if you want a complete setup for 30k with monitor, keyboard, mouse etc. you'll be looking at entry graphics anyway. So for a equivalent to a Legion LOQ 15 with a rtx4060m you'd have to spend more than the 30k budget.
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There is pros and cons to everything. Only pro about a notebook is Portability. That's where it ends.

A 30 series card will be stronger than the 4060m. Same for CPU. A PC with "lower specs" will be more powerful than the mobile versions of a newer architecture or whatever you call it.

But yes, all depends on your needs. If "gaming" is the focus, I'll definitely consider a desktop. If work and gaming, then a lappie is lekker to go crash at a coffee shop.

If you want to be portable within you house, you can use you Smart TV and Android Box or any other device that is able to stream on the local network, cabled recommended.

Also you most likely will want to connect a separate mouse , mechanical keyboard and larger screen to the laptop anyways as well.

:)
 
RedViking said:
There is pros and cons to everything. Only pro about a notebook is Portability. That's where it ends.

A 30 series card will be stronger than the 4060m. Same for CPU. A PC with "lower specs" will be more powerful than the mobile versions of a newer architecture or whatever you call it.

But yes, all depends on your needs. If "gaming" is the focus, I'll definitely consider a desktop. If work and gaming, then a lappie is lekker to go crash at a coffee shop.

If you want to be portable within you house, you can use you Smart TV and Android Box or any other device that is able to stream on the local network, cabled recommended.

Also you most likely will want to connect a separate mouse , mechanical keyboard and larger screen to the laptop anyways as well.

:)
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The point of a gaming laptop is obviously portability. However the latest gen laptops aren't as much of a compromise as they use to be, the 40 series closed that gap and a don't agree with your assesment against the 30 series (unless were talking about VRAM limitations which is mostly applicable for running high textures), especially considering dlss and frame gen going forward. One thing we fail to acknowledge especially in SA is that a PC needs a UPS. That's yet another advantage going the laptop route when we account for budget.

I maintain for a 30k budget all in, a 4060m laptop is a more sensible option.

As for PC platforms, right now AM5 is the only way to go accounting for future proofing upgradability. And that isn't cheap.
 
Love Me Tender said:
What desktop setup would you recommend?

When you say throttle you mean not the full graphics processing?
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Did a quick little spec run, IMO this is the best you would do for the budget. Remember no peripherals, no Windows license, no Nvidia dlss , pre assembled and lower end storage and it's not fancy, but it has an upgrade path, the graphics card should be good for another few years.
 
Lastly, upgradeability is a big win for the desktop.
Take a decade old pc, pop in a used 1070Ti, and you can play cyberpunk on high.


Not perfect, but it can be done.

When one part of the laptop ages, usually the gpu, you have to replace the whole thing.

My 2011 i7 2600k can play RDR2, Cyberpunk, and probably even more recent games. Every year extra you can squeeze from it, is another year you can save for a big upgrade.
 
Slckrck said:

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Did a quick little spec run, IMO this is the best you would do for the budget. Remember no peripherals, no Windows license, no Nvidia dlss , pre assembled and lower end storage and it's not fancy, but it has an upgrade path, the graphics card should be good for another few years.
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Thanks, appreciated
 
Slckrck said:

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Did a quick little spec run, IMO this is the best you would do for the budget. Remember no peripherals, no Windows license, no Nvidia dlss , pre assembled and lower end storage and it's not fancy, but it has an upgrade path, the graphics card should be good for another few years.
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why no nvidia?
 
Slckrck said:
The point of a gaming laptop is obviously portability. However the latest gen laptops aren't as much of a compromise as they use to be, the 40 series closed that gap and a don't agree with your assesment against the 30 series (unless were talking about VRAM limitations which is mostly applicable for running high textures), especially considering dlss and frame gen going forward. One thing we fail to acknowledge especially in SA is that a PC needs a UPS. That's yet another advantage going the laptop route when we account for budget.

I maintain for a 30k budget all in, a 4060m laptop is a more sensible option.

As for PC platforms, right now AM5 is the only way to go accounting for future proofing upgradability. And that isn't cheap.
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Yeah what is VRAM about, I see it on some GPUs specs. Does the GPU not have dedicated RAM and uses from your processing RAM?
 
For reference.
The only thing I have installed right now is elden ring.
So with chrome (with a few tabs), some dev tools (VS Code,putty, Database tool, PHP and webserver running), whatsapp desktop etc running.
I get 60fps in one castle and between 50 to 60fps outside on everything high 1080 on my laptop with 3060 6GB.
And I just realized I don't even know what CPU I had until checking now; i5-10500H CPU @ 2.50GHz , 16GB RAM.

In Castle:
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Outside:
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kolaval said:
For reference.
The only thing I have installed right now is elden ring.
So with chrome (with a few tabs), some dev tools (VS Code,putty, Database tool, PHP and webserver running), whatsapp desktop etc running.
I get 60fps in one castle and between 50 to 60fps outside on everything high 1080 on my laptop with 3060 6GB.
And I just realized I don't even know what CPU I had until checking now; i5-10500H CPU @ 2.50GHz , 16GB RAM.

In Castle:
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Outside:
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Thanks for this, really helps.

Which laptop do you have?

I see some laptops in the R30k range have the 4060 8GB range. So that should help also I think...
 
And how does it work if you get an external monitor, does the GPU drive both displays or does the Internal GPU run one of them?
 
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