George Floyd death

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Pegasus said:
Why would you say that?

All sorts of races reckon they are the best, check out Japanese, Chinese and Korean history for instance.

Personally my favourite race is whatever the Rock is. Maori or Polynesian not sure.
If I could choose to be one that would be it.
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Half-black and half-Samoan, he is American Samoan.
 
rietrot said:
I don't know. Don't their women also look a bit too much like the Rock?
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Once they get past their 30's.
So you have to trade in for a new model. Not an issue if you look like the Rock.
 
While all this talk of race is entertaining .
It still has nothing to do with the topic .
Just like 13% of the US population committing 50% of its violent crime .(yes its a certain race)
Just like White crime being lumped in to latino crime to inflate the figures.(police reports saying white hispanic class those offenders as white)
Just like the riots have nothing to do with so called justice.
Mr Tampa was killed in the same manner while police even joked , where was BLM/antifa/looter brigade ?
 
Emjay said:
It's because where there is any inequity, it's inherently racist?
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As the study says, all other things being equal, if the only differing factor is the colour of the person's skin then yes, it is.
 
rietrot said:
Hold on a second there. Giving anyone rights based on their race is racist.

It's called Human rights, all humans can use one set. Irrespective of how nice their tan is.
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Hold on a second there, did you actually read what I wrote? When did I ever advocate for giving people more rights based on the colour of their skin?
Strawman much?

TysonRoux said:
In this case, the topic of this thread, it's about equal rights, not more rights.
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Yes it's about equal rights I was speaking in terms about a group that functionally has less rights in terms of real world treatment and respect for thier rights.
 
This is what I have been saying -

Three federal commissions concluded that when police escalate force those efforts can often go wrong, creating the very violence that force was meant to prevent.
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fivethirtyeight.com

De-escalation Keeps Protesters And Police Safer. Departments Respond With Force Anyway.

MINNEAPOLIS — Last Wednesday, Marcell Harris was hit by a rubber bullet. He had joined the second day of protests in this city over the killing of George Floyd, a black man who died after a police officer kneeled on his neck for more than eight minutes while bystanders filmed.
fivethirtyeight.com
 
Now that you mention "The Rock".

www.businessinsider.com

The Rock says he would have joined the NFL protests against police brutality and racial inequality

Johnson, who is not particularly vocal about politics, also criticized President Trump's response to the protests.
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In a wide-ranging interview with Rolling Stone, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson said that if he were playing in the NFL, he would have joined the player's protests against police brutality against African-Americans and systemic racial inequality.

Johnson — a former college football player at the University of Miami — "would either have knelt or raised my fist in solidarity," he told Rolling Stone.

It's a striking comment coming from Johnson, a public figure not known for being especially political, given how much backlash the player protests engendered, including angry comments from President Trump. Johnson took issue with those comments.

"I felt like our president's responses were being dictated by the noise and not the actual problem," Johnson said.

He went on to call the protests "a cry for help: 'As one human being to another, we're having this issue that's affecting our country and our little kids, and I need your help.' And I think when human beings are in jeopardy, and they ask for help, good-quality human beings, whether locally or at the highest level of office, they help."
 
Jabulani22 said:
While all this talk of race is entertaining .
It still has nothing to do with the topic .
Just like 13% of the US population committing 50% of its violent crime .(yes its a certain race)
Just like White crime being lumped in to latino crime to inflate the figures.(police reports saying white hispanic class those offenders as white)
Just like the riots have nothing to do with so called justice.
Mr Tampa was killed in the same manner while police even joked , where was BLM/antifa/looter brigade ?
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Have to make this thread last until the IPL and rugby start up.
The TDS one is getting repetitive.

And race did start the crap, so an analysis of the different views adds some context.
 
buka001 said:
This is what I have been saying -



fivethirtyeight.com

De-escalation Keeps Protesters And Police Safer. Departments Respond With Force Anyway.

MINNEAPOLIS — Last Wednesday, Marcell Harris was hit by a rubber bullet. He had joined the second day of protests in this city over the killing of George Floyd, a black man who died after a police officer kneeled on his neck for more than eight minutes while bystanders filmed.
fivethirtyeight.com
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It sends an invitation to these guys to join in.

(And many more)


 
Pegasus said:
Have to make this thread last until the IPL and rugby start up.
The TDS one is getting repetitive.

And race did start the crap, so an analysis of the different views adds some context.
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Yeah race started it , those who assumed he died due to his race ,they are wrong though , the only racist thing i saw in the video was that guy behing the camera calling the asian cop Chow , tao or whatever like 3 times.

Still no word on the cops saying they are gonna kill him because of his race.
 
Emjay said:
It's because where there is any inequity, it's inherently racist?
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From a social perspective, it does establish structural equalities – it is a bias related to racial and ethnic disparities, and no, it isn’t racism per se but it may be weighed as a predictor on the outcome. There is a study since I couldn’t read the pay blocked article,

https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2413&context=articles

but it is best to read and understand the study. Jumping to conclusions isn’t what a study is about, and I’m not about to start another verbal disagreement by quoting the said study. People are extremely touchy at the moment and I am unemployed at the moment so I am extra argumentative.

Cray has merit in his argument.
 
Vorastra said:
Give me stats of MJ consumption/possession per capita by race and MJ-based arrest statistics for a specific area, and I will come to a conclusion. Off the top of my head: Again, could they be 3.64 times the arrest rate compared to whites because they are interacting with police at a much higher rate due to the very real black-based crime rates?

If I'm a stretched-thin police force, which is literally every police force, then I'm going to focus on statistics that show me who to target.
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You do realise you are hitting the nail on the head with the issue right?

And you are making a good case for why these protests happen.
 
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Cray said:
As the study says, all other things being equal, if the only differing factor is the colour of the person's skin then yes, it is.
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All other things aren't equal.
 
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