Getting better sleep

The Darkness said:
If you think the CBD is helping the situation, think again. After watching this documentary one cannot deny the drastic effects on the brain from cannabis.

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Ja, not a fan of cannabis anymore ( haven't smoked in ages either) but was feeling a bit desperate the other day so figured it was worth a shot. Again - not something I want to use long term or even every day.
 
SHL said:
May sound silly but what helped me surprisingly was an air purifier. That clean, fresh smell in the air and the swirling water calms the senses.
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Got something to check the humidity today. Will check this out at well. Any brand / make etc you'd recommend?
 
Nike7 said:
Diagnosing sleep issues is tricky and complex, but let’s go with some of the threads you began pulling at.

Having random cortisol spikes and the wrong time of night could be to a number of things, one, as you guessed, is inflammation. One thing that causes transient inflammation at night is digestion, because digested food molecules can enter your blood stream, and because the immune system is most active at night, this can easily trigger inflammation. Food slowly passing into your lower gut can also feed your digestive tract bacteria causing them to bloom which also triggers the immune system hence causing inflammation.

To see if that’s the issue, try to eat your main meal at 2pm instead of in the evening.

Since cutting out caffeine, have you felt sleepy during the day?
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Hmmm also in holidays might be worth trying a breakfast + lunch rather than lunch + dinner.
 
saor said:
Not really but a sleep clinic might be in the cards soon to get it diagnosed.
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They'll be able to rule out breathing, heart and brain issues or at least see the spike of whatever is waking you up.

Sleep tests are not fun though, you end up looking like C3PO before his covers got installed by the time you go to bed.
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
They'll be able to rule out breathing, heart and brain issues or at least see the spike of whatever is waking you up.

Sleep tests are not fun though, you end up looking like C3PO before his covers got installed by the time you go to bed.
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Any idea on cost for something like that? Occurs over multiple nights?
 
saor said:
Edit: tl;dr you've been warned.

Detour from the cannabis thread for anyone interested. For the last few months I've been feeling like my sleep has been really bad. Get to sleep fine but am waking up with a heavy tired sensation behind my eyes, not feeling rested, been in a kak mood during the day, work been suffering. I'll usually wake a few times to piss but it's often accompanied by a kind of restlessness and I'll often toss and turn after getting back into bed and lie there for a while before falling back to sleep. All said - I don't feel like I'm awake the whole night, but I feel tired as if I was awake for a lot of the night.

Have done the usual:

No caffeine late in day
No blue light / phones etc. before bed
Exercise
Eat well
Magnesium supplements (various forms, currently on glycinate, haven't tried threonate)
etc.

Went for blood test recently - everything checks out fine, minor allergy (hayfever) markers found but I don't have hayfever symptoms so doubt (for now) that this is the cause of the tiredness.

Enter CBD oil. I don't like the next day effects of weed and I feel it with CBD so I've been hesitant to try again. Picked up 3 different bottles (CBN+CBD, CBG+CBG, high Sativa to CBD 12:1). First night with the CBN+CBD oil I had good sleep (the restlessness was gone and replaced with a kind of warm comfort so falling asleep again was much easier) but then I had the usual next day hangover feeling which at this point is almost preferable to the tiredness). Going to spend a week playing around with dose on the CBN+CBD before trying one of the other oils.

However - given how I feel the next day I don't feel like CBD or any cannabis solution will be long-term but it might be enough short-term to at least help break the waking up habit.

So at the moment before bed:

Magnesium Glycinate
L-Theanine
2-3 drops CBN+CBD
Have also cut out caffeine and chocolate completely since last week.

I've seen quite a few reports of elevated cortisol keeping people awake during the early morning. Might be this. Though it might also be an inflammation issue but that's just a stab in the dark, blood tests also returned no inflammation issues.

Anyway. Interested to hear from anyone else dealing with sleep issues what helped.
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Use the deep sleep present for 15 minutes before you sleep.

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SHL said:
May sound silly but what helped me surprisingly was an air purifier. That clean, fresh smell in the air and the swirling water calms the senses.
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I have a Xiaomi running in my main bedroom. Better than the usual smog.
 
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There are so many things it could be. Two others not mentioned is sinus issues(infection or other) and anxiety/stress. Also try and time your sleep in multiples of 1.5h +15min to fall asleep. So 6:15 hours, 7:45 etc.
 
B-1 said:
There are so many things it could be. Two others not mentioned is sinus issues(infection or other) and anxiety/stress. Also try and time your sleep in multiples of 1.5h +15min to fall asleep. So 6:15 hours, 7:45 etc.
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So that's something the blood results returned. From the doctor:
You do have raised allergy antibodies suggesting a background of allergic rhinitis. This may well be the cause of your tiredness.
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Got a prescription for a few things to address the allergy so will probably drop the CBD for a bit and take the medication and see.

The anxiety & stress it might well be, but it's tricky that it only klaps me in the early morning. I'm generally quite calm in the evenings and fall asleep fine but ja - there might be something beneath the surface I'm not noticing. Maybe a bit of meditation before bed would help to at least bring that to light.
 
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