Getting better sleep

RiaX said:
Just gonna leave this random information here.

New clinical studies show that GLP-1 agonist like ozempic improve sleep especially in over weight individuals.

Although its not as effective as cpap nor is it curative they do have a positive effect against sleep apnea.

Just saying ....
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Cause it removes the fat around the neck.
 
saor said:
Yup - feels a bit like saying swimming is a potential cure for sleep apnea. Sure - because if you're overweight it's going to help you lose weight. Unless I'm missing something here.
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You are not. It is simply the weight loss. Weight loss from any other reason would result in the same.
 
100% correct but then you need to be honest how many of you suffering here from sleep apnea have around or less than 15% body fat
 
RiaX said:
100% correct but then you need to be honest how many of you suffering here from sleep apnea have around or less than 15% body fat
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That's exactly me. Apnea doesn't just affect the overweight.
 
saor said:
That's exactly me. Apnea doesn't just affect the overweight.
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How you know there isnt adipose deposits around your airways ? did you check ?

you dont have to look obese to have this issue. Same way thin people get heart attacks just because you look thin that doesnt mean there is no build up in the vessels. It may not be alot of tissue but perhaps with some other factors it could just be enough there out of plain bad luck

anyways i didnt say itll help everyone.
 
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Here is quite an accurate description of ozempic without the internet fear mongering

 
Grubscrew said:
I was recently diagnosed with severe sleep apnea (AHI 42), and in hindsight it explains a lot of what I’ve been dealing with over the past 18 months.


I started getting tired more often, more irritable, and my recovery from intense exercise became much worse. I train regularly, and previously I would recover quickly, but that just stopped happening. My short-term memory was also noticeably worse, and no matter how long I slept, I never felt properly rested when waking up. Initially I just assumed it was age or stress.


I did all the normal checks — blood tests, ECG, etc. — and everything came back fine. My new GP, after listening to the symptoms, suggested a sleep study almost immediately.


The first test was done using a ring device overnight. Based on those results, medical aid approved a CPAP titration trial, and I was sent home with a CPAP machine for two nights. After the first night, I felt like a new human being. Properly rested, clear-headed, and calm. The second night was the same.


Unfortunately I had to return the machine while waiting for the sleep specialist to finalise my settings, which was frustrating after feeling the difference.


Last night was my first night with my own auto CPAP machine. Once again, I woke up refreshed. My AHI dropped from 42 to 1.


The mask doesn’t bother me much. I’ve done scuba diving before, so breathing through equipment doesn’t feel unnatural. The only adjustment is getting used to trusting the mask and not worrying about leaks or it shifting during the night, but that already feels manageable.


I’ve always been a snorer, and I did try a mandibular advancement mouth guard previously. It helped slightly, but clearly wasn’t enough given the severity.


If anyone is unsure about getting tested or starting CPAP, in my case the difference was immediate and significant. I didn’t realise how much the condition was affecting me until it was treated.
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Can you sleep on your side when wearing the CPAP?
AlmightyBender said:
You are not. It is simply the weight loss. Weight loss from any other reason would result in the same.
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But doesn't Ozempic make you lose weight/fat in more unusual places that just straight reduced calories does?
I was reading how it can affect the fat on your face and hence age people drastically as the face loses all its fat and hence it’s plumpness to fill your features out. So lines/wrinkles increase radically and people get that hollowed out look only the elderly typically get, there's lots of examples of celebrities that got carried away with Ozempic and the results look pretty hard-core.

Perhaps Ozempic affects the fat retention areas specific to this condition more so than just normal weight loss would.
 
airborne said:
Can you sleep on your side when wearing the CPAP?

But doesn't Ozempic make you lose weight/fat in more unusual places that just straight reduced calories does?
I was reading how it can affect the fat on your face and hence age people drastically as the face loses all its fat and hence it’s plumpness to fill your features out. So lines/wrinkles increase radically and people get that hollowed out look only the elderly typically get, there's lots of examples of celebrities that got carried away with Ozempic and the results look pretty hard-core.

Perhaps Ozempic affects the fat retention areas specific to this condition more so than just normal weight loss would.
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I am a side sleeper mostly and sofar no issues at all, but that said I think mentally I am for this, the hose nor the mask bothers me at all.
I mostly eat ok, I do 3 HIIT sessions a week and then I do 1-2 Weight lifting gym sessions on my "off days" I rarely do less than 10 000 steps a day either. Based on my recent diagnosis, the lack of sleep did interfere with my exercise results and inability to lose weight even when trying to eat really right.
 
gonna park this here, found it helped me a ton with getting decent nights sleep,

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RiaX said:
Here is quite an accurate description of ozempic without the internet fear mongering

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Brilliant video, loved the insightful facts of ozempic, but in my case scared of needles and the cost
when they make a generic version that can be taken as a pill, will definitely consider it,
 
airborne said:
Can you sleep on your side when wearing the CPAP?

But doesn't Ozempic make you lose weight/fat in more unusual places that just straight reduced calories does?
I was reading how it can affect the fat on your face and hence age people drastically as the face loses all its fat and hence it’s plumpness to fill your features out. So lines/wrinkles increase radically and people get that hollowed out look only the elderly typically get, there's lots of examples of celebrities that got carried away with Ozempic and the results look pretty hard-core.

Perhaps Ozempic affects the fat retention areas specific to this condition more so than just normal weight loss would.
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You can't target weight loss. You lose fat globally. When people lose weight the first place you notice is the face because there isn't alot of fat generally stored there so it appears to get thinner faster.

One needs to remember fat doesn't burn off the tissue shrinks and expands. It takes a good amount of time of non use before the tissue is broken down and excreted.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
Brilliant video, loved the insightful facts of ozempic, but in my case scared of needles and the cost
when they make a generic version that can be taken as a pill, will definitely consider it,
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Glp1 is a peptide gets broken down in the stomach and is not as effective as the injectable. Some oral formulations exists out there.

The modern insulin pen needle is ultra fine you don't feel a thing these days. Once you get used to it it's as painless as taking a tablet
 
airborne said:
But doesn't Ozempic make you lose weight/fat in more unusual places that just straight reduced calories does?
I was reading how it can affect the fat on your face and hence age people drastically as the face loses all its fat and hence it’s plumpness to fill your features out. So lines/wrinkles increase radically and people get that hollowed out look only the elderly typically get, there's lots of examples of celebrities that got carried away with Ozempic and the results look pretty hard-core.

Perhaps Ozempic affects the fat retention areas specific to this condition more so than just normal weight loss would.
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Like Riax said there is no such thing as targeted fat loss. Just doesn't exist under any circumstances.

What is happening there is people go overboard and too aggressive in the pace of their calorie deficit i.e. taking too much Ozempic and not eating enough protein and calories. This results in very rapid weight loss which includes muscle. This is NOT the way it should be done. And especially with the celebrities you mentioned they ALREADY have body dysmorphia. They are the exception and not the norm. They already decently thin and then they make it worse and take it too far and they look terrible.

Rapid weight loss from any reason will cause the same outcome: think people in concentration camps, prisoners of war, people in comas etc. They all also exhibit the same features.

If you maintain a healthy diet with enough protein and calories to simply lose fat while not wasting away rapidly then there is no issue with GLP-1 medication.
 
For the past 3 weeks I've given up alcohol and have been jogging 10km 4-5 times a week.

I've gone from going to bed at 10pm and waking up at 1/2am and tossing the rest of the night to sleeping straight through (occasionally I wake up but roll over and fall asleep again.) Also feeling more refreshed in the morning and have more energy during the day.
 
Grubscrew said:
The mask doesn’t bother me much. I’ve done scuba diving before, so breathing through equipment doesn’t feel unnatural. The only adjustment is getting used to trusting the mask and not worrying about leaks or it shifting during the night, but that already feels manageable.
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What mask are you using? I've got this & I like the nasal mask and the seal is fine up to about 7 or 8, but as soon as pressure goes higher I get leaks pretty easy.

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Not too keen on full face, was thinking of maybe trying the nasal pillow masks...


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