Golf 7 TSI oil consumption

namzsteve said:
Just putting in my 2 cents here, I believe turbo charged have an oil weakness and will burn up oil after some time depending on how it is driven and how well it is maintained. In fact any car can burn oil, but turbos tend to 'cook' the exhaust side oil seal, noticed this with a friend's tsi.
I would say just add oil as long as the engine runs smoothly, the turbo will blow at some point then you can get a replacement.

Another tip, after a drive, give the car a minute or 2 before switching it off so that the turbo cools down a bit, don't turn on the car for at least half an hour so the turbo can cool down.
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Is this turbo cooling or waiting for oil pressure to drop so there is not a lot of oil left in the turbo on the bearings, as the heat will cause that oil to flake?
 
Cars will naturally use oil. Every manufacturer will tell you that. Its par for the course with engines. The issue is how much oil they use. I see some people comparing NA engines to Turbo engines. The golf TSi is a turbo engine and cant be compared to an NA engine when it comes to oil consumption, for a few reasons. The turbo is supplied oil as well as the engine. Turbo engines generally use thinner oil. The pistons dont sit as tight in the cylinder. So that combined with the thin oil, it will start to slip past the rings.

The oil issue started on mine after i asked VW to check the turbos actuator piston. I suspect they pulled the turbo off and didnt put it back properly as there seems to be oil building up around my turbo. Thats a much better issue than the engine eating the oil. Because as you guys can see, like i said, VW will charge you half the value of the car to fix the engine.

There are endless stories on this oil consumption problem and we are only seeing the people that are posting. Can you imagine the amount of people that just suffer in silence or just get rid of the car.

The cooling down of the turbo after a trip is something i always did. I would free wheel to my gate etc. But im not sure if that applies to the newer cars.
 
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SteelRain said:
Cars will naturally use oil. Every manufacturer will tell you that. Its par for the course with engines. The issue is how much oil they use. I see some people comparing NA engines to Turbo engines. The golf TSi is a turbo engine and cant be compared to an NA engine when it comes to oil consumption, for a few reasons. The turbo is supplied oil as well as the engine. Turbo engines generally use thinner oil. The pistons dont sit as tight in the cylinder. So that combined with the thin oil, it will start to slip past the rings.

The oil issue started on mine after i asked VW to check the turbos actuator piston. I suspect they pulled the turbo off and didnt put it back properly as there seems to be oil building up around my turbo. Thats a much better issue than the engine eating the oil. Because as you guys can see, like i said, VW will charge you half the value of the car to fix the engine.

There are endless stories on this oil consumption problem and we are only seeing the people that are posting. Can you imagine the amount of people that just suffer in silence or just get rid of the car.

The cooling down of the turbo after a trip is something i always did. I would free wheel to my gate etc. But im not sure if that applies to the newer cars.
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My current car is a Turbo (Renault Clio 4 ,0.9TCE), that's the car that I have driven +12000km without putting oil, and having checked it this morning again, it's still full, have to take it in for its yearly next month though, I can see the oil is getting darker.

I was thinking the same WRT those suffering in silence , especially considering how much these cars sell down here, there must be hundreds at the very least suffering quietly.

Yep, the whole turbo cooling thing generally applies to older cars, but I to still do it, the last 1km to home and to work involves 20km speed limits.
 
Tsepz_011 said:
My current car is a Turbo (Renault Clio 4 ,0.9TCE), that's the car that I have driven +12000km without putting oil, and having checked it this morning again, it's still full, have to take it in for its yearly next month though, I can see the oil is getting darker.

I was thinking the same WRT those suffering in silence , especially considering how much these cars sell down here, there must be hundreds at the very least suffering quietly.

Yep, the whole turbo cooling thing generally applies to older cars, but I to still do it, the last 1km to home and to work involves 20km speed limits.
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Oh yea, dont get me wrong. My golf used to go 15000km and never need oil. Only after the 70k km mark is it now eating.
I just think that because the new engines are much smaller and make much more power, the tolerances for change are low, so the moment they start to wear down, they eat oil. Not saying all Turbo or new engines are like this. I honestly think there is a flaw in the mk 7 golf engines. And VW hide and once its out of warranty, they couldnt care.
All throughout my teen years i wanted a turbo car. Now i want a scooter after dealing with this rubbish.
 
Tsepz_011 said:
My current car is a Turbo (Renault Clio 4 ,0.9TCE), that's the car that I have driven +12000km without putting oil, and having checked it this morning again, it's still full, have to take it in for its yearly next month though, I can see the oil is getting darker.

I was thinking the same WRT those suffering in silence , especially considering how much these cars sell down here, there must be hundreds at the very least suffering quietly.

Yep, the whole turbo cooling thing generally applies to older cars, but I to still do it, the last 1km to home and to work involves 20km speed limits.
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Saying that though, my cousin builds cars for a living and he still lets his car idle before turning it off. But he did have a built motor, so...
 
SteelRain said:
Oh yea, dont get me wrong. My golf used to go 15000km and never need oil. Only after the 70k km mark is it now eating.
I just think that because the new engines are much smaller and make much more power, the tolerances for change are low, so the moment they start to wear down, they eat oil. Not saying all Turbo or new engines are like this. I honestly think there is a flaw in the mk 7 golf engines. And VW hide and once its out of warranty, they couldnt care.
All throughout my teen years i wanted a turbo car. Now i want a scooter after dealing with this rubbish.
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I hope you come right with all this man, it's not at all fair.

Agreed, I guess we are the guinea pigs for these small turbo engines after all. I have also played it careful with my Clio, the moment it's Warranty expires it's going to be sitting at a dealer, I don't want to know anything about it after 100,000km.
 
Which dealer have you spoken to Steel?

I still have an extended warranty but no one can tell me if this problem will be covered?

I just can't take this risk of having them strip my engine and then sit with a bigger problem and no car
 
ahmedomar said:
Which dealer have you spoken to Steel?

I still have an extended warranty but no one can tell me if this problem will be covered?

I just can't take this risk of having them strip my engine and then sit with a bigger problem and no car
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I've spoken to VW in Pinetown and Umhlanga. I've also taken it to a mechanic in the area.

The fact that you have paid for an extended warranty and they cant tell you if the problem is covered is only further proof of the fact that they useless and have zero interest in the customer.
 
ahmedomar said:
Which dealer have you spoken to Steel?

I still have an extended warranty but no one can tell me if this problem will be covered?

I just can't take this risk of having them strip my engine and then sit with a bigger problem and no car
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Are you still paying for the car? I would rather sell it and take the knock now rather than a whole engine dying later. This cannot be sustainable.
 
No it's paid off, but now I'm kinda being forced into buying a car again because of this issue,

Can't even think of what I would replace for R200k that would be on the same level of the golf in terms of features and power
 
ahmedomar said:
No it's paid off, but now I'm kinda being forced into buying a car again because of this issue,

Can't even think of what I would replace for R200k that would be on the same level of the golf in terms of features and power
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It's no use having the features and power if it's consuming oil like Bush did. What about an Astra J or a Megane?
 
What is your thoughts on the Astra 1.4 sport or enjoy? A3 sedan same engine? Was it only the 2013 tsi models that have this oil problem or new models as well?
 
Have the same issue with my 2013 1.4 tsi. I started to develop the issue around 75k / 80k km. I have DP and a custom map done by Mace tuning (Brilliant tuners) and had thought this was the initial problem as I started noticing smoke and a higher oil consumption a few months after. But reading this, I know now its actually a factory fault and nothing they could've done. My warranty is long gone and am now sitting with a car that smokes like a tractor with an extremely high oil consumption.
 
cameron_hart95 said:
Have the same issue with my 2013 1.4 tsi. I started to develop the issue around 75k / 80k km. I have DP and a custom map done by Mace tuning (Brilliant tuners) and had thought this was the initial problem as I started noticing smoke and a higher oil consumption a few months after. But reading this, I know now its actually a factory fault and nothing they could've done. My warranty is long gone and am now sitting with a car that smokes like a tractor with an extremely high oil consumption.
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Sell it before something else goes wrong :(
 
ahmedomar said:
I have a 2013 golf 7 1.4 tsi and it is now beginning to use up oil. In the past i never had to top up oil between services but now after doing 5000km after the 105000km service i had to top up and now again 2500km later. VW says it's normal. Is it really normal as it never did this before?
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It is not normal. I suspect they "test drove" your car at the last service and caused some damage which has now led to the oil consumption.
 
namzsteve said:
Just putting in my 2 cents here, I believe turbo charged have an oil weakness and will burn up oil after some time depending on how it is driven and how well it is maintained. In fact any car can burn oil, but turbos tend to 'cook' the exhaust side oil seal, noticed this with a friend's tsi.
I would say just add oil as long as the engine runs smoothly, the turbo will blow at some point then you can get a replacement.

Another tip, after a drive, give the car a minute or 2 before switching it off so that the turbo cools down a bit, don't turn on the car for at least half an hour so the turbo can cool down.
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This is not true. Not even slightly. On very old turbo cars (1980-1990) perhaps (the part about not switching off immediately). But on any modern turbo car, this is not in the least necessary.
 
cameron_hart95 said:
Have the same issue with my 2013 1.4 tsi. I started to develop the issue around 75k / 80k km. I have DP and a custom map done by Mace tuning (Brilliant tuners) and had thought this was the initial problem as I started noticing smoke and a higher oil consumption a few months after. But reading this, I know now its actually a factory fault and nothing they could've done. My warranty is long gone and am now sitting with a car that smokes like a tractor with an extremely high oil consumption.
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If you hadn’t done the mods you could have gone back to the dealership and had this probably sorted under a good will claim as they are well aware of the issues across the engine range.
 
My 2013 1.2 TSi runs for about 10 months before I need to add a pint. This is irrespective of how much I've driven.

I've also just gone out of warranty as my car did just about exactly 100,000km over 5 years. So I'm going to have to consider where I get it serviced next. Might just do it in house, considering that our guys service generators on a daily basis. A minor service up here at VW sets me back around R7.5k. :(
 
Voicy said:
My 2013 1.2 TSi runs for about 10 months before I need to add a pint. This is irrespective of how much I've driven.

I've also just gone out of warranty as my car did just about exactly 100,000km over 5 years. So I'm going to have to consider where I get it serviced next. Might just do it in house, considering that our guys service generators on a daily basis. A minor service up here at VW sets me back around R7.5k. :(
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So 4400 krone for oil change?? Must be some special oil lol
 
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