I don't....They'll just build another 1 with tax payers money.
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Question of the day ~ Should the Lions tour go ahead as planned?
Govt to announce e-toll date
I don't....They'll just build another 1 with tax payers money.
blunomore
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There is not a lot of public transport in and around Sandton and Midrand. Sure there is the Gautrain but how do you move around the suburbs? The Gautrain bus does not go everywhere.
Oh and what is it with the "us/ours" and "you/yours" mentality ?
They will NEVER see a cent from me.
The many taxes we already pay are intended for this kind of infrastructure (that's the purpose of any government) and the only reason they now require extra money is because they have been massively inefficient and corrupt. A huge percentage of the toll money will go to paying for the tolling system itself.
It is time for us all to stand together.
Let them know that we have had enough of outrageous electricity, rates, food price hikes. We have had enough of the ongoing assault on the middle and working classes in this country. We have had enough of bad administration and the consequential decay of the road networks, traffic lights, streetlights, dug up pavements, etc. We have had enough of the constant crime, which the authorities don't seem to be capable of addressing or even care about. We can no longer allow ourselves to be raped by incompetent, dishonest, thieving idiots.
The so-called highway improvement is not even an improvement. All they've done for R100 billion is added some lanes. The off ramp intersection changes have been mostly ineffectual and useless at alleviating traffic, and the promised extra off-ramps that were part of the original plan have never materialised, not to mention that the main non-highway arterials have meanwhile steadily deteriorated and have been completely neglected during the freeway "improvement" project.
We must stand together and not pay these people a cent. I don't care what church leaders they co-opt, they could have the Pope's blessing for all I care, they will not make money out of this fraud. We have had enough.
The many taxes we already pay are intended for this kind of infrastructure (that's the purpose of any government) and the only reason they now require extra money is because they have been massively inefficient and corrupt. A huge percentage of the toll money will go to paying for the tolling system itself.
It is time for us all to stand together.
Let them know that we have had enough of outrageous electricity, rates, food price hikes. We have had enough of the ongoing assault on the middle and working classes in this country. We have had enough of bad administration and the consequential decay of the road networks, traffic lights, streetlights, dug up pavements, etc. We have had enough of the constant crime, which the authorities don't seem to be capable of addressing or even care about. We can no longer allow ourselves to be raped by incompetent, dishonest, thieving idiots.
The so-called highway improvement is not even an improvement. All they've done for R100 billion is added some lanes. The off ramp intersection changes have been mostly ineffectual and useless at alleviating traffic, and the promised extra off-ramps that were part of the original plan have never materialised, not to mention that the main non-highway arterials have meanwhile steadily deteriorated and have been completely neglected during the freeway "improvement" project.
We must stand together and not pay these people a cent. I don't care what church leaders they co-opt, they could have the Pope's blessing for all I care, they will not make money out of this fraud. We have had enough.
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he's a taxi owner/driver troll
LazyLion
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I'd use public transport if there was actually something decent available where I live.
Taxi's are not an option - I have a wife and kid to look after.
The nearest Gautrain station is about 14km (30 min drive) from my house and has no bus feeder network to my suburb (PTA East).
No ways they'll get that right. Too many exit and entry points to monitor.
Can you imagine being billed R10 every time you go to the shops around the corner from your house because you exit and enter a difference zone?
Of course it will only apply to the affluent suburbs while those containing predominantly indigent residents will be exempt.
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If people fight the system i.e. by not registering and not paying it will eventually fail...but alas one thing South Africans are not good at is standing together for a common cause so sabotaging the gantries might be the only option.
As far as I'm concerned SANRAL/Government can go get f**ked.
As far as I'm concerned SANRAL/Government can go get f**ked.
Well, since everyone seems unanimous about that, I think there may be some hope.
LazyLion
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Now they are saying the announcement might be delayed....
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/20...ucks-not-in-a-row-announcement-may-be-delayed
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/20...ucks-not-in-a-row-announcement-may-be-delayed
daveza
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With all the strike violence I'm sure they don't want more civil disobedience to deal with.
ToxicBunny
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If they try this and there is no decent public transport, you can expect the public to not pay this either.
If I had to pay to travel into a neighbourhood, and I couldn't get there easily via safe public transport, I wouldn't pay.
What I read from this is that the decision is already made and chatting with COSATU is just s formality with no holding ground.
thestaggy
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If we had safe, comprehensive and reliabe public transport I would gladly use it.
The Gautrain has an incredibly limited coverage and you still need to make arrangements for further transport to get to and from the stations.
BBSA
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Which makes sense, the task team to investigate alternative funding models has not even completed their work.