Help! Audi S3 or VW Golf R?

[Rouxenator]

Yeah, that stupid iphone, how badly it tanked...

You just lost all credibility

 

[roadcat]

Posting a graphic with no dates/context? Bit like your reviews of Audi, anyone can do that...

 

[Enigma_]

Just thought I'd continue to this thread derail. I love derailing or abruptly ending threads. So here's my contribution


Source: IDC

 

[Spotja]

A bit off topic. Was it really necessary for VW to put 4 tail pipes on the R and S3 especially for a 4Cyl 2ltr engine?

 

[Enigma_]

A bit off topic. Was it really necessary for VW to put 4 tail pipes on the R and S4 especially for a 4Cyl 2ltr engine?

If you're a kid, it makes you think the car goes really, really fast Like woah...

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

A bit off topic. Was it really necessary for VW to put 4 tail pipes on the R and S3 especially for a 4Cyl 2ltr engine?

Doesn't beat the C-class that has twin oval fake plastic "exhausts" with the actual pipe underneath the car:

 

[Sepeng]

A bit off topic. Was it really necessary for VW to put 4 tail pipes on the R and S3 especially for a 4Cyl 2ltr engine?

Yeah don't know if 4 cylinders require 4 exhausts. But looks nice.
8 cylinders, 8 exhausts?

 

[Enigma_]

Doesn't beat the C-class that has twin oval fake plastic "exhausts" with the actual pipe underneath the car:

/snip

That's just nasty.

Yeah don't know if 4 cylinders require 4 exhausts. But looks nice.
8 cylinders, 8 exhausts?

No, the outlets of the cylinders should just merge into one pipe.

The S3 also has four exhausts. Not entirely sure why as it's only a 2L. But hey, I don't mind. Looks pretty cool.

 

[Rusty0]

A bit off topic. Was it really necessary for VW to put 4 tail pipes on the R and S3 especially for a 4Cyl 2ltr engine?

2 years ago we were all asking this, now we know why, the boost is very high, the standard piping is 76mm right through.
So ye, they needed to get the gas out fast?

 

[Enigma_]

2 years ago we were all asking this, now we know why, the boost is very high, the standard piping is 76mm right through.
So ye, they needed to get the gas out fast?

Doesn't make sense, just make the pipes bigger in diameter. The Vantage has 2 pipes, yet the S3 has 4, and the power output is vastly different.

 

[Rusty0]

Doesn't make sense, just make the pipes bigger in diameter. The Vantage has 2 pipes, yet the S3 has 4, and the power output is vastly different.

Aston Martin Vantage?
I just want to make sure before I lol and roll my eyes.

 

[Enigma_]

Aston Martin Vantage?
I just want to make sure before I lol and roll my eyes.

Yes, Aston Martin. I'm just saying that an increase in the number of exhausts on a vehicle doesn't really have relevance to power output, just a perception. I just think it's silly that manufacturers chuck on as many exhausts to make it look 'sporty'.

 

[Spotja]

2 years ago we were all asking this, now we know why, the boost is very high, the standard piping is 76mm right through.
So ye, they needed to get the gas out fast?

The new carrera has 2 pipes.

 

[Enigma_]

The new carrera has 2 pipes.

Exactly my point.

 

[Rouxenator]

Just parking this here, it has 4 pipes, and is better than any VAG in some areas.

 

[Rusty0]

The new carrera has 2 pipes.

So does the RS3.
But they huge two pipes.

 

[PostmanPot]

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The only reason Android's so high is because you keep buying all the cheap entry level ones. The ones which outsell the premium high end ones 10 to 1.

 

[Enigma_]

So does the RS3.
But they huge two pipes.

and so does the Vantage Which feels a lot more powerful than the S3 (yes yes, I'm comparing two different segments of the market), even though it probably isn't. Oh, and that sound.

 

[Rusty0]

and so does the Vantage Which feels a lot more powerful than the S3 (yes yes, I'm comparing two different segments of the market), even though it probably isn't. Oh, and that sound.

Its about compression ratio and turbo, there a reason for larger diameter pipe.
the tail pieces are just cosmetic. They needed a wider outlet of some kind, they could have gone with large single tail pieces or smaller dual pieces. I like the dual pipes on the Golf R, 2 single ones will spoil the look I think.

The old Seat Ibiza looked terrible with one single oval tail piece in my opinion, as an example obviously.

 

[Enigma_]

Its about compression ratio and turbo, there a reason for larger diameter pipe.
the tail pieces are just cosmetic. They needed a wider outlet of some kind, they could have gone with large single tail pieces or smaller dual pieces. I like the dual pipes on the Golf R, 2 single ones will spoil the look I think.

The old Seat Ibiza looked terrible with one single oval tail piece in my opinion, as an example obviously.

What I know about that kind of thing can be written on a sticky note. But, I concur.