Help! Audi S3 or VW Golf R?

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There are four pipes to help people like Roux and Mike Hoxbig distinguish between As and Ses. Without quad pipes, they couldn't tell. :)
 
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I have owned all but the S3.
I started off with an M135 last year ( Old Shape ) then I bought the Golf 7 GTI ( Didnt like it at all ) then got a 7 R ( More Power, AWD ) and 4 months later got the new spec 135 again.

All are great cars they really are. The 7 GTI was modded ( API + Downpipe ) Purely because I missed the power of the 135i.
I didnt quite like the FWD setup and traded in for the 7R. It really is a nice car. It just ticks all the boxes. If you want a car that is going to do everything well, 7R is it. I really could not find fault with it except... Its not nearly as fun as the BMW and they are absolutely everywehre. This isn't necessarily a bad thing though, its a very good vehicle. BUT, when you push the start button on the BMW and those 6 cylinders fire up you wont regret it.

Gearbox, I prefer the sound of the DSG ( the blip ) but the ZF is much smoother as an everyday drive as said earlier. Also, 8 speed vs 6 speed on the DSG. Overall for me, ZF box is better. I went for the M135i LCI again as it is a little more practical than the M235i.

You will lose more on the BMW though but IMO, its worth it.

If I were you, id just go and drive the BMW just to put your mind at ease. I know that you have set your mind on one of the two but I really would do it.

One final MASSIVE advantage is the 5 Year / 100 000km motorplan. Everything is converted not just services.

Ive owned these over a period of the last 18 months.
In all honestly though, all the cars mentioned here are great and you wouldn't really be going wrong with any of them.

Goodluck Bro!
 
PostmanPot said:
There are four pipes to help people like Roux and Mike Hoxbig distinguish between As and Ses. Without quad pipes, they couldn't tell. :)
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True :D

Even then they manage to make it look boring though. Quad pipes done right... :love:

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Rusty0 said:
2 years ago we were all asking this, now we know why, the boost is very high, the standard piping is 76mm right through.
So ye, they needed to get the gas out fast?
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Rusty0 said:
Aston Martin Vantage?
I just want to make sure before I lol and roll my eyes.
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Rusty0 said:
So does the RS3.
But they huge two pipes.
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Rusty0 said:
Its about compression ratio and turbo, there a reason for larger diameter pipe.
the tail pieces are just cosmetic. They needed a wider outlet of some kind, they could have gone with large single tail pieces or smaller dual pieces. I like the dual pipes on the Golf R, 2 single ones will spoil the look I think.

The old Seat Ibiza looked terrible with one single oval tail piece in my opinion, as an example obviously.
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Well, seeing as my car has 240kw and 450nm with two exhaust pipes, I struggle to believe there is any mechanical reason 4 (gettit :) ) the 4 pipes....


...and it is pretty obvious why the S3 and G7 R need 4 pipes. They look the same as any S-line Audi or Golf gti. The only real way to tell them apart is the ridiculous use of 4 exhaust pipes.

EDIT - and my car actually only uses one exhaust pipe under normal driving....second one opens up with spirited travel!
 
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PostmanPot said:
There are four pipes to help people like Roux and Mike Hoxbig distinguish between As and Ses. Without quad pipes, they couldn't tell. :)
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You need a degree to distinguish the iterations of the audi and golf over the last few generations without very visible clues... ;)
 
Splinter said:
Well, seeing as my car has 240kw and 450nm with two exhaust pipes, I struggle to believe there is any mechanical reason 4 (gettit :) ) the 4 pipes....


...and it is pretty obvious why the S3 and G7 R need 4 pipes. They look the same as any S-line Audi or Golf gti. The only real way to tell them apart is the ridiculous use of 4 exhaust pipes.
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Or aesthetics
 
Splinter said:
Well, seeing as my car has 240kw and 450nm with two exhaust pipes, I struggle to believe there is any mechanical reason 4 (gettit :) ) the 4 pipes....


...and it is pretty obvious why the S3 and G7 R need 4 pipes. They look the same as any S-line Audi or Golf gti. The only real way to tell them apart is the ridiculous use of 4 exhaust pipes.
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Jealous. :D
 
Spotja said:
Or aesthetics
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What aesthetics? :)

But seriously, I quite enjoy cars and have spent money on many car mags and actually buying new cars, so do not think I am an ignoramus in this respect. But I cannot really tell Audi generations apart without a huge amount of attention; and when it comes to the Gti I tell the latest generations apart by the tailpipes. Anyone who wants to disagree please let me know why.

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Jealous. :D
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Nope - tis like stuffing socks down your underwear :D
 
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Splinter said:
Well, seeing as my car has 240kw and 450nm with two exhaust pipes, I struggle to believe there is any mechanical reason 4 (gettit :) ) the 4 pipes....


...and it is pretty obvious why the S3 and G7 R need 4 pipes. They look the same as any S-line Audi or Golf gti. The only real way to tell them apart is the ridiculous use of 4 exhaust pipes.

EDIT - and my car actually only uses one exhaust pipe under normal driving....second one opens up with spirited travel!
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Absolutely. My sentiments with the Vantage as well, plenty of power just for two pipes, and the sound is unrivalled (well, kinda). I'm quite fond of the quad pipe on the S3, but that may just be nepotism talking.
 
Can't believe this discussion over tailpipes is still going on. I suppose that's what happens when there's a lack of differentiating features on a car... :D
 
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