How the WITS student voting will work

SammyD said:
You Cab show who the minority if just the same at ah assembly. Only difference is, nobody is excluded. Do you think the student referred to in the picture below has money for airtime it they don't have money for transport?

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Who said protesting students don't want to study? This vote makes protesting and wanting to go back to class mutually exclusive. In an assembly both issues can be discussed. We all want to go back to class, write exams and go home but that doesn't mean we can't support the movement.

And how can we trust the results of an evidently faulty system anyway. It's gone seven, sms nowhere to be seen.
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I'm all for free tuition fees and grants for living expenses for those who need it. It is a travesty that people are denied an education because of their circumstances. It seems to me that the person in the example needs a lot more assistance than just having their fees paid though. And Government is the only avenue open for an overhaul of the system as it stands.

Tell me Sammy, what would you like to happen and what is a fair way to move the issue forward. It still seems to me that you are protesting at the wrong people and are losing support by adopting a thuggish approach
 
SammyD said:
How about, we want to go back to class, but our demands must be met first.
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You'd need a majority for that. It seems like this vote is a good way to show how the other students feel. And as for not having airtime, I think you can discount the relatively small number who won't be able to vote because of this.
 
We all know mass meetings/ a general assembly would be dominated by the loud-mouthed dolts leading the protest.

A poll is a perfectly acceptable way to gauge actual student opinion.

Sammy and chums know they are going to lose by a large margin, hence all the excuses coming in.
 
SammyD said:
How about, we want to go back to class, but our demands must be met first.



So you don't have a reply
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Why not take your demands to an institution that can meet your demands? The single gain that #feesmustfall won in 2015 was achieved after a visit to the Union Buildings.

The Wits SRC discouraging participation in this poll suggests to me that they are aware that they do not represent the majority of students. Which lead to the question: who do they represent?
 
I knew from grade 1 I was never going to varsity because of my parents financial situation. Even a loan was out of the question because there was no one who could sign surety. Don't know why it's the universities fault someone can't afford to get there.
 
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Chris said:
We all know mass meetings/ a general assembly would be dominated by the loud-mouthed dolts leading the protest.

A poll is a perfectly acceptable way to gauge actual student opinion.

Sammy and chums know they are going to lose by a large margin, hence all the excuses coming in.
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That's the thing. The current bully boy tactics have to stop and students have to unite because they have a just and worthy cause. But the present course of action is driving a wedge and it's likely that those who vote to return can afford it and those who vote to stay away, can't.

It seems to me the protestors need to win hearts and minds, and intimidation is not the way to do it. Look at the replies on this thread for example. Most people would probably agree with the government introducing means to help those who need it, but most are just disgusted at the violence and intimidation and now call for the army to intervene.
 
SammyD said:
How about, we want to go back to class, but our demands must be met first.
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It's perfectly fine if u or any of the rioters don't go back to class until your demands are met. The problem is that u want to force and intimate everyone else that want to go to class.
 
Chris said:
We all know mass meetings/ a general assembly would be dominated by the loud-mouthed dolts leading the protest.

A poll is a perfectly acceptable way to gauge actual student opinion.

Sammy and chums know they are going to lose by a large margin, hence all the excuses coming in.
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Exactly, Sammy is panicking 'cos he knows an electronic poll cannot be disrupted like the ****-stirrers do assemblies. Also kinda difficult to intimidate people when they're spread geographically..

Foiled by democracy, lol.
 
evilstebunny said:
Exactly, Sammy is panicking 'cos he knows an electronic poll cannot be disrupted like the ****-stirrers do assemblies. Also kinda difficult to intimidate people when they're spread geographically..

Foiled by democracy, lol.
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Or..... foiled by those who can afford it.
 
SammyD said:
Nothing decided by this poll is legally binding because it's not a referendum and even if it was, nothing in the university statute says anything about a decision by referendum therefore it would be null. This thing is just a waste of money by the university when we can, as the rules state, have an assembly at no additional cost.

Secondly, I know the vote is free but just so you know a balance of R0.00 is a real thing and I've never heard of any provider selling R0.30 airtime.
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Im pretty sure every service provider sells airtime for like R 15 , You are more worried about spending R15 than the future of your education?.

I think the whole purpose here is to get a figure on how many students want to sit at home and waste their lives and how many actually want to work and complete their education , if it proves that the majority want to resume classes they will make the decision to beef up security and continue or close the university.
 
Seeing the amount of 'students' carrying their smartphones around during the rioting, I somehow doubt that airtime is an issue...
 
evilstebunny said:
If you're on Vodacom I can gift you the airtime for your vote..
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I'm not involved. I'm pointing out that government needs to get the finger out of their fat arses and help students who need help.

I'd also will the students to go back to studies and find a common consensus on how to take the fight to government that doesn't involve violence and intimidation.
 
Rioters, your time is up. You are the weakest link, goodbye. (knock on wood)

Naturally we'll see a lot of this:

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Then more "peaceful protests" will follow

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The cops just have to muster up the cajonas and take care of these little punks, proper.
 
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