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ConfusedR

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South Africa.....
Was once seen as the "1st world country" in Africa.
South Africa was given to the ANC........Now the country is just another "shithole country" in Africa.
 
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R13... said:
Isn't the one who predicted R20 to the $ two years ago? He's a bit of a prophet (well most economists are, but he's of the doom persuasion). He makes prophecies and goes about stoking the fires to make sure they're fulfilled.
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Where? Economists don't have a crystal ball to make predictions. They can only state the likely result of certain conditions being true.
 
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Well the AnC has brought us to a 60+/- % of GDP, a figure well over, listen carefully now, R3 trillion and climbing. Gov spending will increase on employees, theft will carry on unchecked, debts will increase as SeO fails, maybe somehow we make it, maybe we ALL lose everything we have accumulated.
 
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smi said:
...maybe we ALL lose everything we have accumulated.
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This is the most likely outcome.

Luckily this will not happen to everyone. I am sure by now that most open-minded and intelligent people would have protected their money against the government. Sad for those who did not.
 
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ConfusedR said:
South Africa.....
Was once seen as the "1st world country" in Africa.
South Africa was given to the ANC........Now the country is just another "shithole country" in Africa.
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First world in the political sense and not socioeconomic.
 
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ConfusedR said:
South Africa.....
Was once seen as the "1st world country" in Africa.
South Africa was given to the ANC........Now the country is just another "shithole country" in Africa.
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Only by white people who choose not to look at the conditions the rest of the country where forced to live in...
 
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Vrotappel said:
Nope those conditions were much better than the rest of Africa hence all of them trying to move here.

Those infrastructure, allegedly only build for whites are still supporting all of us 25 years into kleptocracy.
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It was the case when the Chiefs of that time conceived the idea, hence the isolation. Unfortunate but true. We've (All South Africans hopefully) since moved on.
 
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Cray said:
Only by white people who choose not to look at the conditions the rest of the country where forced to live in...
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even the s-hole parts were better than most of africa..... actually the migrant labout system was more humane than the current china one.... which no one says anything about.
 
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Being better than the rest of Africa doesn't make you a first world country...
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No, having first world quality infrastructure in all main areas does, and it was slowly spreading to the rest until the regime change started eating away the previously accumulated capital and ramping up debts.... then there's the idiots that thinks everything magically grows back who never stopped burning everything.
 
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Jopie Fourie said:
This is the most likely outcome.
Luckily this will not happen to everyone. I am sure by now that most open-minded and intelligent people would have protected their money against the government. Sad for those who did not.
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Here you go -- you can make yourself useful

HOW -- by what means was President Paul Kruger s body returned to South Africa ?

I know how he left -- Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands concluded a deal with Britain to extricate Kruger on a Dutch warship, HNLMS Gelderland, ...
but
HOW was his body repatriated -- from the Hague in Holland ?

I have looked and looked but cannot turn up anything

One wonders IF his body will have to be RETURNED to the Netherlands ?
 
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rambo919 said:
No, having first world quality infrastructure in all main areas does, and it was slowly spreading to the rest until the regime change started eating away the previously accumulated capital and ramping up debts.... then there's the idiots that thinks everything magically grows back who never stopped burning everything.
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How "slowly"?:)

OT: What was debt-to-GDP ratio in the early 90's? I'm just curious.
 
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surface said:
Dude, I see hardly anyone replies to you. Wassup man, all good on friday?
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Thank you for asking

Here it is hotter and more uncomfortable than -- Panama
So .... NO not "all good"

The Jopie Fourie character makes a big song and dance about his -- "Afrikaner-Heritage"
WHERE is he when I ask a simple question -- making Hasta Mañana in PANAMA ?
Bloody Hensopper ...

Then "staffwriter" puts up a news article about a Dawie Roodt presentation
but
Neglects to provide a link to the presentation ....

Hasta la Vista BABY .....
 
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ForceFate said:
How "slowly"?:)

OT: What was debt-to-GDP ratio in the early 90's? I'm just curious.
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Depends on whether you use hours or days I guess. Everything I read about the 1950-1990 era only re-impresses upon me just how much of what actually got done actually constituted miracles because sanctions, low expert population levels, cripling social programs (such as those huge hospitals in black areas and modernising schooling for everyeone), all modern infrastructure having to be built from scratch, etc. Everything before was either still industrial era, destroyed from the wars or non-existent to begin with.

Most of that debt was because of sanctions from what I remember, the secret 1985 decision to disband apartheid happened because of that.

You must remember every single time SA was on the cusp of proper progress some catastrophe happened, the ANC is merely the newest one.
 
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ForceFate said:
How "slowly"?:)

OT: What was debt-to-GDP ratio in the early 90's? I'm just curious.
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not fair comment as the whole world had us under sanctions, compare apples with apples.
edit: that's why prime interest rate was like 25%, we are heading that way again, not because of sanctions, because of the anc.
 
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I have spoken to numerous (by now old) black people who attest their conditions where better during apartheid re: security and services. Moreover, people go on as if apartheid South Africa was some sort of Auschwitz - but it was not. My home country (Poland) had many orders of magnitude more people killed in the war than black South Africans can ever dream of. Until about 1995 Poland was a hole - but we picked up and moved on. Cannot say the same for the people here, who are seemingly always using a (currently) 25 year old scapegoat to validate their own shortcomings.

I also learnt the Boers were held in concentration camps during their war. Can the blacks say the same?
 
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