How Vodacom will combat WhatsApp

Roll on 7c/minute and keep driving those prices down Whatsapp. Oh yeah, keep fighting Vodacom, damn, its a shame things change, dontcha just wish it was 1999 again....
 
ToxicBunny said:
Well yeah, but a massively delayed packet is treated as packet loss as far as I'm aware and resent from the source after a certain time frame....

TBH, to put my tinfoil hat on, I would not think it to far from the realm of possibility that VC will enable rules on the Deep Packet Inspection equipment that will deprioritise WhatsApp voice traffic randomly... and it will just not be the greatest experience to use...
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Yip, probably, would not surprise me at all...
 
Joosub said that you have to drive down pricing and make sure you have migrated customers to integrated bundles with voice, SMS and data to fight disruptive services like WhatsApp.
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So instead of embracing innovative services, they decide to demonize and fight them.
 
jes said:
How Vodacom will combat WhatsApp

WhatsApp is set to launch voice services soon, threatening the core revenue stream of mobile operators. Here is how Vodacom will fight back.
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but but but Mr CEO those promos are for on-net calls aren't they? With Whatsapp we are talking local and international calls so I don't think your comparison makes a bit of sense. Or maybe you have other tricks up your sleeve like throttling voip traffic to death??
 
kianm said:
but but but Mr CEO those promos are for on-net calls aren't they? With Whatsapp we are talking local and international calls so I don't think your comparison makes a bit of sense. Or maybe you have other tricks up your sleeve like throttling voip traffic to death??
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Good little point there...

We need a blended Call Rate for the entire Globe from Shameel..

Let him try explain THAT concept :D
 
Sodan said:
So instead of embracing innovative services, they decide to demonize and fight them.
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Demonize?

He basically said that they will reduce call prices to fight competition for voice calls with WhatsApp. This is a bad thing how?
 
grim said:
Demonize?

He basically said that they will reduce call prices to fight competition for voice calls with WhatsApp. This is a bad thing how?
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They will do this yes, but make VOIP practically broken by DPI and either dropping VOIP packets or blocking the protocol completely. The latter they will not admit to, not publicly anyway.
 
grim said:
Demonize?

He basically said that they will reduce call prices to fight competition for voice calls with WhatsApp. This is a bad thing how?
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I read it differently..

He said "We have these amazing promotional prices that are available if you jump through 94 flaming hoops at 3:31am every morning, can MAYBE bring the price down to 7c per minute, if you needed to speak to 1 person only for an entire 60minutes"

There is no mention of lowering prices, they just seem to be content to try pull the wool over their customers eyes instead.
 
Do you know, that none of these flaming hoops and bullsh*t baffles brains packages exist overseas.
 
Koosi said:
They will do this yes, but make VOIP practically broken by DPI and either dropping VOIP packets or blocking the protocol completely. The latter they will not admit to, not publicly anyway.
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What's with the conspiracy theories? Tin foil hat blocking off some blood flow?

Still don't see why everyone loves to hate Vodacom so much, they might not be the cheapest but their service is miles ahead of the other networks. I'd rather pay a little bit extra and have a functioning network 99.9% of the time.

Their 32 million active users and over 50 million registered sim cards also begs to differ when it comes to who people choose as their cellular network of choice.

It's the same as uncapped ADSL accounts, you get cheap and nasty and slightly more expensive but functional accounts.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I read it differently..

He said "We have these amazing promotional prices that are available if you jump through 94 flaming hoops at 3:31am every morning, can MAYBE bring the price down to 7c per minute, if you needed to speak to 1 person only for an entire 60minutes"

There is no mention of lowering prices, they just seem to be content to try pull the wool over their customers eyes instead.
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Dial *111*60#
Select Power Hour
Select Buy
Confirm

60 minutes to anyone on Vodacom, not just one person, you can phone 60 people for 1 minute each if you feel like it

All that in 4 steps.

If you find that difficult maybe you shouldn't own a phone.
 
Koosi said:
They will do this yes, but make VOIP practically broken by DPI and either dropping VOIP packets or blocking the protocol completely. The latter they will not admit to, not publicly anyway.
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Reminds me of Life of Brian:

Are you Brian?
No
AHA! Only the True Messiah would deny it

Are you blocking VOIP?
No
AHA! That's EXACTLY what someone that's blocking VOIP would say!
 
grim said:
What's with the conspiracy theories? Tin foil hat blocking off some blood flow?

Still don't see why everyone loves to hate Vodacom so much, they might not be the cheapest but their service is miles ahead of the other networks. I'd rather pay a little bit extra and have a functioning network 99.9% of the time.

Their 32 million active users and over 50 million registered sim cards also begs to differ when it comes to who people choose as their cellular network of choice.

It's the same as uncapped ADSL accounts, you get cheap and nasty and slightly more expensive but functional accounts.
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LOL I left Vodacom because people would say my phone was going to voicemail when it was next to me, with full signal, and the constantly having to reboot any handset I put the SIM into, to ensure I got all my SMS messages.
 
grim said:
Dial *111*60#
Select Power Hour
Select Buy
Confirm

60 minutes to anyone on Vodacom, not just one person, you can phone 60 people for 1 minute each if you feel like it

All that in 4 steps.

If you find that difficult maybe you shouldn't own a phone.
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Not quite as simple as that...

**Initial understanding** R4 gets you a power hour, that expires in 60 minutes, so if you want your FULL 60 minutes, you have to phone 1 person.

I see that I was wrong, its available for the day it was purchased it seems.. but its still only VC to VC.
 
Koosi said:
LOL I left Vodacom because people would say my phone was going to voicemail when it was next to me, with full signal, and the constantly having to reboot any handset I put the SIM into, to ensure I got all my SMS messages.
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That's not a Vodacom issue... sounds like you had a dud SIM or maybe kept your phone in your tin foil hat.
 
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