iBurst to ADSL migration - need help with router/modem

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Hi.

I have a Netgear WNR2000 router (4 ports + WAN port + WiFi), of which the WAN port is connected to my iBurst desktop modem via an ethernet cable.

Now I am finally switching to ADSL, and I need to know if I can buy a simple ADSL modem (with no router, WiFi, etc) and connect it to my existing Netgear WNR2000 router in the same way that my iBurst is connected?

I believe that the router establishes a PPOE connection with the iBurst modem - is this correct? If so, will the router be able to do the same with an ADSL modem?

If not, then which modem/router combination would you recommend?
 
Yes - if the modem has an ethernet port it's perfect,you just may have issues connecting to the adsl modem to diagnose issues. Would have to plug the cable out of wan and into the lan ports :)
 
For sure

You can use almost any adsl modem.
Most modems have "PPPOE Half Bridge" activated on them by default and should work out the box.
You should just remember to activate bridge mode on the ADSL router if the half bridge setting is not there.
Remember VPI and VCI settings of 8 and 35.
 
PsyWulf said:
...you just may have issues connecting to the adsl modem to diagnose issues. Would have to plug the cable out of wan and into the lan ports :)
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This sux.. is there no way around it?

I suppose if I buy an all in one modem+router combination, I won't have this problem. Are there any particular ones that you guys would recommend, i.e. ADSL modem + router + WiFi combination?

This is for home use, and WiFi is a must. I want to share the ADSL connection with at least 2 laptops and 2 cell phones.
 
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packetloss said:
You can use almost any adsl modem.
Most modems have "PPPOE Half Bridge" activated on them by default and should work out the box.
You should just remember to activate bridge mode on the ADSL router if the half bridge setting is not there.
Remember VPI and VCI settings of 8 and 35.
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OK... are you saying I should make sure that "PPPOE Half Bridge" mode is activated on the modem, and if such a setting does not exist on the modem, then I need to to activate "Brige Mode" on the router?
 
not sure if one can initiate a PPPoe thru wifi. like, i couldn't get it right to make a dialup for my local only account on my wireless laptop
 
ToxicWazte said:
This sux.. is there no way around it?

I suppose if I buy an all in one modem+router combination, I won't have this problem. Are there any particular ones that you guys would recommend, i.e. ADSL modem + router + WiFi combination?

This is for home use, and WiFi is a must. I want to share the ADSL connection with at least 2 laptops and 2 cell phones.
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1) Well,no :P

2) Netgear DG834 - wireless,adsl modem and router,works a charm

And don't be confused by some of these terrapins,your router supports cable and PPPoE connection types,either connection types you'd be setting up if the modem supports pppoe/does not,so you're well sorted there
 
PsyWulf said:
2) Netgear DG834 - wireless,adsl modem and router,works a charm
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Netgear DG834: Ethernet (4-port) ADSL Modem/router; no wireless
Netgear DG834G: Ethernet (4-port) ADSL Modem/router; Wireless-G (54Mbps)
Netgear DG834GT: Ethernet (4-port) ADSL Modem/router; Wireless-G Turbo (up to 108Mbps)
Netgear DG834N: Ethernet (4-port) ADSL Modem/router; Wireless-N (300Mbps)

Best one to get is the DG834 v3 in my opinion. TexasInstruments AR-7 chipset, no wireless. You already have a wireless router, plus if it gets fried by lightning, you don't lose an expensive wireless router!
 
fragtion_ said:
Netgear DG834: Ethernet (4-port) ADSL Modem/router; no wireless
Netgear DG834G: Ethernet (4-port) ADSL Modem/router; Wireless-G (54Mbps)
Netgear DG834GT: Ethernet (4-port) ADSL Modem/router; Wireless-G Turbo (up to 108Mbps)
Netgear DG834N: Ethernet (4-port) ADSL Modem/router; Wireless-N (300Mbps)

Best one to get is the DG834 v3 in my opinion. TexasInstruments AR-7 chipset, no wireless. You already have a wireless router, plus if it gets fried by lightning, you don't lose an expensive wireless router!
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Thanks fragtion.. good point about the lightning issue...

Any idea on the approximate prices of these items? I've been checking around, and it seems I will have to invest at least R800 in an ADSL modem.

I was hoping to spend closer to R400-R500. I don't want to buy second hand, and I don't want to buy something crappy that is going to give issues (sync issues, speed issues, etc).

However, I am really considering forking out the R1300+ for a modem + router + wifi combo, just to make my life easier, with less wires, power cords and other entanglements...
 
ToxicWazte said:
I was hoping to spend closer to R400-R500. I don't want to buy second hand, and I don't want to buy something crappy that is going to give issues (sync issues, speed issues, etc)..
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Try get hold of one of these: http://vanilla.co.za/shiroDSL805E.php - Shiro DSL805E
Same chipset as the Netgear DG834(G) v3, which is known for its reliability, low ping, and ability to sync at good speeds on lines far from the exchange -- but for half the price
You can probably also get a nice Billion router for around that price!
 
ToxicWazte said:
This sux.. is there no way around it?
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Most ADSL modems have network ports as well, so the solution is to run a 2nd cable from one of those network ports to an open port on your router. So 2 cables from the router to the modem - 1 for the WAN link (where the router dials the PPPOE account) and 1 for the LAN link to enable you to access the modem over your LAN.
 
TheMightyP said:
Most ADSL modems have network ports as well, so the solution is to run a 2nd cable from one of those network ports to an open port on your router. So 2 cables from the router to the modem - 1 for the WAN link (where the router dials the PPPOE account) and 1 for the LAN link to enable you to access the modem over your LAN.
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Ahh I see.. this makes sense.

So I obviously have to assign IP address on my local network to the modem, while my ISP while assign an IP address from his (public) network? Still seems like a lot more cables than necessary.

1 Telephone, 2 ethernet, 2 power cords.

If I take an all-in-one, it'll be one telephone cord & 1 power cord, but at double the price..
 
I'm not sure about it being double the price, but, it certainly is a lot simpler to have an all-in-one solution. My experience comes from having my router dial out over my modem, and one of the reasons I moved to a single box solution was to simplify the whole thing.
 
OK so I ended up buying an all-in-one modem router, to simplify my life, and do away with all the cable clutter.

I bought the Netgear DGN2000 from PC International in Randburg, for R1024 incl. VAT.

In hind-sight, an excellent buy, except that I didn't know to ensure that the router supports- DD-WRT firmware for local/international traffic splitting. I only learnt about this recently.

Anybody know if my router supports it?
 
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