ICC Twenty20 2014

Falco

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Really? Even when the Indian bowling had clearly shown that their spinners were getting plenty turn on the pitch? Hindsight again...
Duminy is not a T20 spin bowler. Tahier is though. I'm surprised they didn't score 20's from his overs
 

BobsLawnService

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We all know who that is :D

Let's give it up................ Jean Paul Duminy.

I'm not going to blame a single batsman. The South African administrators and coaches don't understand the nature of T20. It isn't a short 50 over game. There is no building an innings or quiet middle overs. A team like India or Sri Lanka picks their most aggressive batsmen and they attack for 20 overs.
 

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Why do SA fans need someone to blame? Cricket is a team sport. Our team got beaten by another team. No one person is to blame. You could no doubt nitpick everyone's contribution and find a couple of runs if you wanted.

I totally agree with you. Faf is to blame.
 

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Not letting AB come in at 3rd at least, third major brain fart...especialy after we seen him hit 68 runs from how many balls again mr. smarty pants? 28...28 fscking balls. But NO NO lets put Kepler Duminy in the mix with a stunning 50 over game innings of 45 (40)

Yes, and think carefully about when he came in for that innings, Mr Smarty pants? In the 11th over! And today? In the 14th over. And why a little later? Well the previous wicket before the wicket which brought ABs arrival fell at the start of the 6th over and subsequently Du Plessis and Duminy put on a partnership of 71 at a run rate of 8.19.
 
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Yes, and think carefully about when he came in for that innings, Mr Smarty pants? In the 11th over! And today? In the 14th over. And why a little later? Well the previous wicket before ABs arrival fell at the start of the 6th over and subsequently Du Plessis and Duminy put on a partnership of 71 at a run rate of 8.19.
It's precisely because of that brilliant form that he should have come in at number 3 today, but he didn't, did he?
 

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Yes please, that is why I asked.

Geez, not only do you guys need a scape goat in the team for a loss but you seem eager to attack anyone who doesn't share your sentiment on the Proteas being a bunch of pathetic losers too :D

So what you're saying is that you're too lazy to read, and need somebody else to point it out to you.

Done here...
 

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It's precisely because of that brilliant form that he should have come in at number 3 today, but he didn't, did he?

And Duminy's form?

AB's best in this WC: 69 off 28 balls. Duminy came in after and made 5 off 5 balls.
Duminy's best in this WC: 86* off 43 balls. AB came in before him in that match and made 5 off 6 balls.

South African do have really short memories...

And out of interest, stats for the whole tournament:

AB 5 innings, 129 runs at an average of 32.25 and a strike rate of 163.29
Duminy 5 innings, 187 runs at an average of 62.33 and a strike rate of 140.60
 
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Letting duminy bowl first is fine, it's a risk that pays off sometimes. Letting albie bowl the second over instead of Steyn was just stupid!

Faf telling Parnell to bowl short was also stupid, Parnell bowls some decent Yorkers, he did after Faf shrugged his shoulders at him.
 

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The guys blaming duminy for the loss is wrong.
Yes he batted a bit slow, but he ensured that we didn't get bowled out. 172 should have been defended.
Before today's game duminy opened the bowling 3 times in the tournament and conceded 6,9&10.
After those 3 overs AB and faf should have seen that opening with JP isn't working.
For what it's worth, I would have opened with parnell and hendricks.
JP and Albie I would've bowled after the power play
 

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Jeepers, man. Enough already. What is it about SA fans, always having to find fault? It's such a negative approach to life. Maybe our politics spills over to infect everything else, or we were badly parented by super-critical adults?

Whatever the cause, it's not edifying, and it engenders a sourness and negativity that perceptive foreigners notice about Saffers. A blaming mentality is a sure sign of an inferiority complex.

And then there's the inescapable fact that playing the blame game is so bad for the players. We sabotage ourselves, and we fans sabotage our players. It's also the one sure way of turning even the most brilliant or promising player into a choker.
 
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BobsLawnService

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Jeepers, man. Enough already. What is it about SA fans, always having to find fault? It's such a negative approach to life. Maybe our politics spills over to infect everything else, or we were badly parented by super-critical adults?

Whatever the cause, it's not edifying, and it engenders a sourness and negativity that perceptive foreigners notice about Saffers. A blaming mentality is a sure sign of an inferiority complex.

And then there's the inescapable fact that playing the blame game is so bad for the players. We sabotage ourselves, and we fans sabotage our players. It's also the one sure way of turning even the most brilliant or promising player into a choker.

Rubbish. You can't blame the fans if a team sucks. It's natural to get annoyed watching a team with so much potential fail time, and time again.
 

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The better team won. Finish 'n klaar.

Indeed,we also didnt really help ourselves with all those dot balls from our batsmen and wides from our bowlers,those two simple things are what separates the winning team from the loosing team in contests such as this,player for player we can match India but its the little things that win games.

India were too comfortable because we messed up those two aspects,dots balls probably costed us 15 runs and wides let the pressure of India which allowed them to cruise and not even loose wickets under pressure.

I somehow do feel that the management rather than the team is to blame for the dot balls,as Bobslawnservice said "There is no such thing as quiet overs in the middle of an innings in t20" and I agree with that.T20 is a bit of a gamble yes but attention to details like these and bowling yorkers in the death overs would easily make SA the best T20 side.

INDIA'S batting line up were no better than Englands this tournament IMO but the difference in the two games was the pressure we put on England was lacking here.
 

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I say bull**** .it's the same Indian team that we beat a few months ago. Yet again the 'think tank ' failed miserably . It is a CHOKE when players continue to lose knock out matches ...they just don't turn up. Faf isn't the smartest captain in world cricket ATM...some bizarre decisions .

Its 20 overs FFS.....how is it that yet again we find that our bigger hitter in Morkel hardly had a hit in most of the matches .... others batting ahead waste up the balls and too much to do at the back end.


this losing mentality becomes infectious and will continue to haunt South African cricket in the shorter versions of the game.
 

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Indeed,we also didnt really help ourselves with all those dot balls from our batsmen and wides from our bowlers,those two simple things are what separates the winning team from the loosing team in contests such as this,player for player we can match India but its the little things that win games.

India were too comfortable because we messed up those two aspects,dots balls probably costed us 15 runs and wides let the pressure of India which allowed them to cruise and not even loose wickets under pressure.

I somehow do feel that the management rather than the team is to blame for the dot balls,as Bobslawnservice said "There is no such thing as quiet overs in the middle of an innings in t20" and I agree with that.T20 is a bit of a gamble yes but attention to details like these and bowling yorkers in the death overs would easily make SA the best T20 side.

INDIA'S batting line up were no better than Englands this tournament IMO but the difference in the two games was the pressure we put on England was lacking here.

Gist: Duminy.
 

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So what you saying is everyone other than the tournament victors are minnows?

If you are happy with not winning and just want to accept it yes. If you are unhappy and frustrated then you are just a failure.

At the top level of sport there is only the winner and the second rans. Second or last doesn't matter, still the same result no meaningful trophy and no place in history...
 
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