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I don't see how that's whataboutism, but if you don't want to answer that's cool.Whataboutism for breakfast?
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I don't see how that's whataboutism, but if you don't want to answer that's cool.Whataboutism for breakfast?
Do corporate insolvencies/liquidations also meet your definition of theft?
Would you be more impressed with me if I told you it's more than double 300K in total? You can choke on that for now. From here on I will not reply to any of the abuse from privileged kids like yourself.So we come back to this point.
You chose not to pay for 3 years duck and dive over 3 cards and 300k in total.
You pass me off as some rich kid with some trust fund i saw my parents go through pretty much the same, job less also had debt etc. BUT they took responsibility for it met with the bank paid what they could during this difficult period.
There is a difference when you do what you can because you take responsibility for your actions.
The equivalent would have been an individual bankruptcy/insolvency application. Has OP initated these proceedings?I don't see how that's whataboutism, but if you don't want to answer that's cool.
Sure, but he's also not a company and with the level of debt he's carrying personal insolvency wouldn't really make sense.ManVee has not declared insolvency
If he did then that would be a legal way of reducing debt
The banks have legal ways to collect debt that they can follow. Quickly go ask them why they've not.ManVee has not declared insolvency
If he did then that would be a legal way of reducing debt
They may well be doing what they do...The banks have legal ways to collect debt that they can follow. Quickly go ask them why they've not.
Sure, but he's also not a company and with the level of debt he's carrying personal insolvency wouldn't really make sense.
Companies frequently declare insolvency to get out of debt obligations, hence my question of whether this constitutes theft too.
Which is why I disagree with OP's actions being described as theft.If a company is genuinely insolvent (we are talking SA and not the US now) then so be it.
If a company fakes insolvency then that wouldnt be moral
The interest may not be more than the debt amount as far as I understand (correct me if I am wrong). So 600 000 sounds about right if you have been avoiding it for a long time. Interest kills with these loans.Would you be more impressed with me if I told you it's more than double 300K in total? You can choke on that for now. From here on I will not reply to any of the abuse from privileged kids like yourself.
I was under debt review but the banks kept asking for more money than what was offered under debt review. Some even pulled out of the agreement (home loans) It then became impossible for me to cope. Now I regret why I went under debt review, as I now have to pay to get removed. Also, my debt would have been prescribed earlier this year.I work in debt review. I have seen clients pay as little as R 50 per month to collectors and increase once they are in a better situation or found another job. It's been 3 years. Are you in the same position now as you were 3 years ago and could not pay?
If he had any intent to repay he wouldn't have been running from this for 3 years.Which is why I disagree with OP's actions being described as theft.
If he borrowed the money with no intent of repaying it then that definition could be justified, but if he entered into the agreements in good faith with every intention to repay then it could never be regarded as theft.
Brother, double 300K, I was talking capital.The interest may not be more than the debt amount as far as I understand (correct me if I am wrong). So 600 000 sounds about right if you have been avoiding it for a long time. Interest kills with these loans.
But they might be able to bring it down, or even completely void the interest with negotiations.
Are they allowed to come for your house and assets?
This sounds like a dangerous game, hence why I try not to be in bed with a bank or big corporate and SARS.
I was referring to his intentions at the time of contract.If he had any intent to repay he wouldn't have been running from this for 3 years.
Eish.... My condolences. I doubt you going to get away from this without a beating. That's a lot of money to take from someone and not pay it back, specially the big boys.Brother, double 300K, I was talking capital.
Nah, I'll survive and come back to tell you all about it in Jan. I am sure they'd be all over me if the total amount belonged to one account.Eish.... My condolences. I doubt you going to get away from this without a beating. That's a lot of money to take from someone and not pay it back, specially the big boys.
The rule of in duplum.The interest may not be more than the debt amount as far as I understand (correct me if I am wrong). So 600 000 sounds about right if you have been avoiding it for a long time. Interest kills with these loans.
But they might be able to bring it down, or even completely void the interest with negotiations.
Are they allowed to come for your house and assets?
This sounds like a dangerous game, hence why I try not to be in bed with a bank or big corporate and SARS.
You don't need to tell me. I'm not interested in what you do with your life, I know how this ends.Nah, I'll survive and come back to tell you all about it in Jan. I am sure they'd be all over me if the total amount belonged to one account.