iPad getting spanked with criticism

[Pegging]

USD500 *7.7*1.14+770 = R5 159, and that is being optimistic.

I can get a serious HP netbook with built-in 3G, and all sorts of wonderful features including 1366*768 for R4729 (incl) from PC International.

IMHO that's no contest for the HP. YMMV.

I quoted the R3500 as a relative price, in America it is cheap.
It'll be closer to R7500 here, going by what CORE charges us for their stuff here.

 

[Fudzy]

My favourite photo apps atm are Best Camera and Photo stitch. I've also got a cropping app and photoshop.com which is a cloud one I mentioned earlier.

Interesting, do you use a desktop for any photo editing/touching up or would you look at using the iPad exclusively. One appeal the iPad has for me would be the ability to use it like a sketch pad. Give me pukkah versions of Photoshop and Illustrator on this thing and then we'd be talking.

They dont now so why would they start?

I think that is all in the specs. Haven't you read up on the device?

Just have, looks like they're putting you over a barrel again.

I wouldn't dream about giving my mother a netbook. Cramped keyboard and a finicky trackpad? No thanks.

And the virtual keyboard is not cramped?

 

[Pegging]

Interesting, do you use a desktop for any photo editing/touching up or would you look at using the iPad exclusively. One appeal the iPad has for me would be the ability to use it like a sketch pad. Give me pukkah versions of Photoshop and Illustrator on this thing and then we'd be talking.




Just have, looks like they're putting you over a barrel again.



And the virtual keyboard is not cramped?

I'm starting to think that you're having some doubts about buying yourself one.

 

[Fudzy]

I'm starting to think that you're having some doubts about buying yourself one.

If it had the features I mentioned regarding the graphic apps, maybe I would, but then it would be cheaper to buy a decent tablet for my desktop.

 

[bwana]

Interesting, do you use a desktop for any photo editing/touching up or would you look at using the iPad exclusively. One appeal the iPad has for me would be like a sketch pad.

No - I do all my heavy lifting on a 17" Macbook Pro. I use Aperture and Photoshop for images. I dont see that ever changing - or at least not in the foreseeable future. I regularly need to publish from an event and those images only require a small amount of work - mostly cropping and tagging. I shoot raw to one card and jpg to a second on those days and process the raw when I get home. The interface on my netbook makes even this simple task tedious. With a 120gb hdd it does make a respectable image dump though.

Just have, looks like they're putting you over a barrel again.

The formats they sell and what they allow on their current devices are two separate things. What has changed?

And the virtual keyboard is not cramped?

She has a laptop too and if she needed it the external keyboard looks pretty good to me.

BTW - in an effort to add some functionality to my netbook I just installed a free logitech app on my iphone that turns it into a very useful computer trackpad - it would be insane on a iPad.

 

[Pegging]

If it had the features I mentioned regarding the graphic apps, maybe I would, but then it would be cheaper to buy a decent tablet for my desktop.

Yes, now that's because you're a geek who needs that sort of thing, so the iPad won't be for you.
It's not being marketed to do that, or is it?

Now people who don't need that (and there are probably a 1000 times more people) would be happy with iPad.

The tablet which you require is actually the "niche" one, which will cost a lot more, and the iPad is the "common" cheaper one.

 

[Jola]

I can get a serious HP netbook with built-in 3G, and all sorts of wonderful features including 1366*768 for R4729 (incl) from PC International.

Actually these netbooks are just changing too quickly, the HP above would be great for CS4 out in the field, as well as photo demos, etc. Should be able to colour calibrate the screen.

Could do with a dual core Atom though, but that may be out next month (that is if it isn't out already !).

I feel like dumping my Asus 1000HE just because of the 1366*768 screen on the HP, and I've only had it for a few months. But I'll be strong (I hope) !

I can't see any use for the iPad, but that's just me.

 

[bwana]

Actually these netbooks are just changing too quickly, the HP above would be great for CS4 out in the field, as well as photo demos, etc. Should be able to colour calibrate the screen.

CS4 on any laptop with a screen smaller than 15" is fantastic . . . if you're designing icons. Even the screen on my 13" MacBook is too small for serious field work.

BTW - I have calibrated my AAO's screen (along with every other screen I could get my hands on) - it took some doing though http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/album.php?albumid=585&attachmentid=3145

 

[Jola]

CS4 on any laptop with a screen smaller than 15" is fantastic . . . if you're designing icons. [/url]

If the resolution is high enough you just have to buy stronger glasses - +2's make a 10" screen double the size !

But I take your point, this is not really for serious work, maybe checking for sharpness / deleting rubbish, also PP a few for posting on general web sites (PBase, etc).

Still great to be able to do that in remote locations !

 

[Fudzy]

Yes, now that's because you're a geek who needs that sort of thing, so the iPad won't be for you.
It's not being marketed to do that, or is it?

I guess, let's see after it's released here how well it manages to penetrate any market other than the Mac fanbois.

 

[bwana]

I guess, let's see after it's released here how well it manages to penetrate any market other than the Mac fanbois.

Kind of like the iPod and subsequently the iPhone had to do?

I'd wager there are more Windows users using those devices than any other group.

 

[Fudzy]

Kind of like the iPod and subsequently the iPhone had to do?

I'd wager there are more Windows users using those devices than any other group.

Sorry meant Apple fanbois. I'm not denying they make some great products, the iPod is unmatched in terms of portable media players, I just predict this is going to be a flop, Apple has had them before. Anyone who's been in the computer business long enough will remember when Apple was bailed out by Microsoft. If I'm wrong, congrats to Apple for securing this niche market.

 

[gregmcc]

The iPad provides the ultimate browsing experience
http://theflashblog.com/images/ipud.jpg

 

[Fudzy]

Noooo... not Bang Bros too!

 

[bwana]

The iPad provides the ultimate browsing experience
http://theflashblog.com/images/ipud.jpg

Sorry but when I saw the first one there I just didnt care about anything else - the less farmville the better.

You have to know those others are going to want to do whatever it takes to get on the device.

EDIT - what am I talking about - google finance is accessible on the iphone as it CNN and Hulu is reported to be working on an iphone app already.

 

[DJNgoma]

...CNN and Hulu is reported to be working on an iphone app already.

The closed ecosystem we all love hey?

 

[PeterCH]

Kind of like the iPod and subsequently the iPhone had to do?

I'd wager there are more Windows users using those devices than any other group.

No bwana. As a Mac Pro user I was hoping for a Macbook in tablet format. This is sadly not it - it's a dumbed down macbook. That's nice and all, but a macbook or macbook pro in tablet format would have been the product to get. Instead we get a LARGE iPod Touch. Yes it will sell but it really is a gimmick. You can't run serious software unless Adobe or Apple release versions of their apps for the app store but than that will suck too since we'll have to rebuy them. As is, you can run Photoshop for Mac and all Mac Pro-Apps on a desktop and a notebook on the same license.

Yes it's nice to browse the web and maybe it is nice to show off your video edits or photo edits - but those are very limited applications. Secondly u need the ecosystem - the Itunes/books/newspapers/apps/games universe. In SA where we only have the apps, and 3G internet is expensive - this will not be as USEFUL as in US/EU. FInally, it's EXPENSIVE. $829 for 64GB/3G version. It's also fragile and the screen is pretty low resolution and could have been bigger - why have such a big bezel.

 

[PeterCH]

Yes, now that's because you're a geek who needs that sort of thing, so the iPad won't be for you.
It's not being marketed to do that, or is it?

Now people who don't need that (and there are probably a 1000 times more people) would be happy with iPad.

The tablet which you require is actually the "niche" one, which will cost a lot more, and the iPad is the "common" cheaper one.

So you're saying people who buy MacBook Pros, iMacs and MPs are ALL GEEKS. Wow!

 

[Fudzy]

No bwana. As a Mac Pro user I was hoping for a Macbook in tablet format. This is sadly not it - it's a dumbed down macbook. That's nice and all, but a macbook or macbook pro in tablet format would have been the product to get. Instead we get a LARGE iPod Touch. Yes it will sell but it really is a gimmick. You can't run serious software unless Adobe or Apple release versions of their apps for the app store but than that will suck too since we'll have to rebuy them. As is, you can run Photoshop for Mac and all Mac Pro-Apps on a desktop and a notebook on the same license.

Yes it's nice to browse the web and maybe it is nice to show off your video edits or photo edits - but those are very limited applications. Secondly u need the ecosystem - the Itunes/books/newspapers/apps/games universe. In SA where we only have the apps, and 3G internet is expensive - this will not be as USEFUL as in US/EU. FInally, it's EXPENSIVE. $829 for 64GB/3G version. It's also fragile and the screen is pretty low resolution and could have been bigger - why have such a big bezel.

It would be a very compelling product in the local market iif Apple struck the same sort of deal that Amazon did with regards to the free 3G access.

 

[Fudzy]

So you're saying people who buy MacBook Pros, iMacs and MPs are ALL GEEKS. Wow!

I don't see what is so wrong with being a geek anyhow? Anyone ashamed of loving technology shouldn't be browsing this forum.