iPhone 6 smashes pre-order records

[2026]

As bwana mentioned you can tranfer files via your web browser and http protocol...

I think the point is that with pretty much any other device out there, plugging it into a USB gives you drag and drop file copying. Work, home or family visit. Easy. And almost everyone has plenty of micro usb cables laying around as well.

 

[Hush9300]

Just connect the damned iPad to the computer or if you have sync over wifi enabled. Select the iPad in the right corner where devices are listed and navigate to apps. Scroll all the way to the bottom where File Sharing should be visible. Click on the app you would like the document transferred to, select add file and navigate to the file. End of story... It's really not that complicated.

iCloud Drive is going to make all this so much easier though.

 

[cerebus]

Name it differently?

A version of software implies it is the same version in total. Imagine every release of a new software version you had to Google to see what you gain or lack compared to other versions? It's pointless having a version number at all if everyone has different flavours and features at every release. Just call it iOS rather.

But it isn't just iOS. It's a variant of iOS7 or 8 with some handful of features missing for lower end devices. An iPhone 4s going to iOS7 from 6.1.3 got iOS7 in the vast majority of aspects - app compatibility, updated appearance, new functionality - to maybe 90% of what an iPhone5 user would have gotten. And with it comes the continued support of Apple and of the app developers to ensure that they can still use the phone and get their updates for a certain length of time to come.

Or do what they have done since the dawn of time and limit a device :

Sony X1 goes to 4.0
Sony Z goes to 4.1
Sony Z1 goes to 4.3
Sony Z2 goes to 4.5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning

Software versioning is the process of assigning either unique version names or unique version numbers to unique states of computer software

iOS7 - 8 on a 4s is a unique state of computer software. What else is it? What exactly is wrong with the approach, other than your irritation that it doesn't tell the full story that certain features are being cut out?

These are quite complicated compared to the Android method. Plug in, copy paste, done. Seamless, as they say.

The Android method of getting the files on the device is much easier than iTunes. Getting them off again and managing them in the device is the tricky part. That's why I ended up finding a way to sync my music with iTunes to the G2. I have so much more control over the content that way.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Name it differently?

A version of software implies it is the same version in total. Imagine every release of a new software version you had to Google to see what you gain or lack compared to other versions? It's pointless having a version number at all if everyone has different flavours and features at every release. Just call it iOS rather.

But it is the same version of software, minus features that would not be supported on older hardware. You're conflating core functionality with specific features reliant on specific hardware not present in all Apple devices.

Or do what they have done since the dawn of time and limit a device :

Sony X1 goes to 4.0
Sony Z goes to 4.1
Sony Z1 goes to 4.3
Sony Z2 goes to 4.5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning

Software versioning is the process of assigning either unique version names or unique version numbers to unique states of computer software

So, how does the naming conventions of iOS not equate to software versioning?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

The Android method of getting the files on the device is much easier than iTunes. Getting them off again and managing them in the device is the tricky part. That's why I ended up finding a way to sync my music with iTunes to the G2. I have so much more control over the content that way.

How is it tricky? Haven't had an Android tablet yet, but on my phone it's quite simple.

I specifically don't want to sync, for example, and so much of iTunes is built around syncing.

 

[bwana]

Goodreader looks decent, but how does the actual file transfer work? I see it has usb transfer (Would that not be through iTunes then?) and Wifi transfer. Would that then be through a web server like ComicFlow uses?

There's a standalone app you can run on the computer if you don't want to involve itunes. With wifi it does essentially become a server that you can either mount or access via a browser.

 

[Dolby]

other than your irritation that it doesn't tell the full story that certain features are being cut out?

Um.

That's a pretty big thing, don't you think?

I know the majority of Apple users don't care about features as long as they have a Apple logo on the case and can show people - but there must surely be those that do care about what they get and what functionality they get?

That said, I guess it does kinda show they don't really care about features :/

 

[OrbitalDawn]

There's a standalone app you can run on the computer if you don't want to involve itunes. With wifi it does essentially become a server that you can either mount or access via a browser.

Cool, thanks.

 

[bwana]

How is it tricky? Haven't had an Android tablet yet, but on my phone it's quite simple.

I specifically don't want to sync, for example, and so much of iTunes is built around syncing.

I don't want to drag this thread even further off topic but how do you handle active playlists without syncing?

 

[cerebus]

How is it tricky? Haven't had an Android tablet yet, but on my phone it's quite simple.

I specifically don't want to sync, for example, and so much of iTunes is built around syncing.

It's tricky because you're dealing with a folder-tree based filesystem containing hundreds of individual files that you need to keep track of, and the system needs to know what to do with according to your instructions. So just in my case for instance, I've got a large mix of audio content - a podcast library that's constantly being updated and needing to be deleted when it's done, ministry messages that I need to configure with bookmarking and album covers, music and audiobooks that also need to be handled with bookmarking and so on. Without the ability to sync, it would end up being an enormous headache to manage.

 

[Dolby]

So, how does the naming conventions of iOS not equate to software versioning?

I really I can't believe I'm the only one that feels this way :/




I know that if I buy Windows 7 Ultimate, I will get what is mentioned. My neighbor, brother and friend with Ultimate have the same features as I have. If I install it on my home or work computer, it's the same.

With Apple, you're not sure.

Are you able to tell me what features you won't have when iOS8 comes out?

 

[neilronaldson]

Find the CPU specs for the "new" iPhone on the iPhones actual webpage...

A8 chip with 64-bit architecture

 

[cerebus]

I really I can't believe I'm the only one that feels this way :/

I know that if I buy Windows 7 Ultimate, I will get what is mentioned. My neighbor, brother and friend with Ultimate have the same features as I have. If I install it on my home or work computer, it's the same.

With Apple, you're not sure.

Are you able to tell me what features you won't have when iOS8 comes out?

Actually a better analogy with that picture is to say that with a 4s, you're getting Home Edition Win8. With an iPhone6, you're getting Ultimate Edition. That seems like a reasonable compromise to make.

Um.

That's a pretty big thing, don't you think?

It really depends on the features being cut out. The core iOS8 experience - app interoperability, customisable keyboards, Healthkit, Metal etc - will be there. Moreover and most critically, app support will be continuous.

 

[Maverick Jester]

I really I can't believe I'm the only one that feels this way :/


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I know that if I buy Windows 7 Ultimate, I will get what is mentioned. My neighbor, brother and friend with Ultimate have the same features as I have. If I install it on my home or work computer, it's the same.

With Apple, you're not sure.

Are you able to tell me what features you won't have when iOS8 comes out?

Huge difference here, being that those are features that one must pay for which decide the version, vs core functionality that is still the same and is not decided upon through versioning.

Will your version of Windows 7 Ultimate work the same on a higher specced PC as it would on a lower specced PC, or will there be certain functions that will not work simply due to hardware restrictions? Does that then change the version of Windows 7 Ultimate that you own, dependent on the hardware that it's being installed on?

 

[Spontaneous Interruption]

I really I can't believe I'm the only one that feels this way :/

I know that if I buy Windows 7 Ultimate, I will get what is mentioned. My neighbor, brother and friend with Ultimate have the same features as I have. If I install it on my home or work computer, it's the same.

With Apple, you're not sure.

Are you able to tell me what features you won't have when iOS8 comes out?

If Apple users don't really care about specs then I'm fairly certain they wouldn't care about what exact version of iOS they are running apart from the fact that it's the latest. Having differently named versions would just be an exercise in naming conventions on Apple's part. Maybe for development or troubleshooting there would be a use for that :/

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I don't want to drag this thread even further off topic but how do you handle active playlists without syncing?

I don't generally work with playlists. I listen to albums in their totality, mostly.

Only time I might use playlists would be on my iPod where it's easy enough (still a pain in the ass 'cos iTunes) to create one.

It's tricky because you're dealing with a folder-tree based filesystem containing hundreds of individual files that you need to keep track of, and the system needs to know what to do with according to your instructions. So just in my case for instance, I've got a large mix of audio content - a podcast library that's constantly being updated and needing to be deleted when it's done, ministry messages that I need to configure with bookmarking and album covers, music and audiobooks that also need to be handled with bookmarking and so on. Without the ability to sync, it would end up being an enormous headache to manage.

Hmm, makes sense. So you find it easier to manage all that stuff on your desktop and then just syncing?

Ideally I'd like to just have the option, with both being equally easily accessible and usable.

 

[cerebus]

Hmm, makes sense. So you find it easier to manage all that stuff on your desktop and then just syncing?

Ideally I'd like to just have the option, with both being equally easily accessible and usable.

It's practically impossible to handle without a desktop manager, because it's just too fiddly on the screen. There are other desktop tools that try to do the same thing for Samsung etc, but they all just suck. Now on the other hand, what Android does really well is having a central pooled folder for file types that enables you to open a single file from multiple sources easily. iOS8 will finally get something similar.

 

[2026]

I was considering that the new iphone is bigger. Is it maybe because apple can no longer cram the tech needed into the smaller version of the phone? Considering the finger print scanner and now NFC and bajillion +1 LTE bands it can do.


I might a technical reason for the increase more than a design reason?

 

[backstreetboy]

Just using iTunes to upgrade my music collection via iTunes match then I'm done with that POS.

I was considering that the new iphone is bigger. Is it maybe because apple can no longer cram the tech needed into the smaller version of the phone? Considering the finger print scanner and now NFC and bajillion +1 LTE bands it can do.


I might a technical reason for the increase more than a design reason?

Probably just the design. Making the top look like the bottom and the fingerprint sensor. The Note 4 packs all that plus a bigger display and is smaller.

 

[cerebus]

I was considering that the new iphone is bigger. Is it maybe because apple can no longer cram the tech needed into the smaller version of the phone? Considering the finger print scanner and now NFC and bajillion +1 LTE bands it can do.
I might a technical reason for the increase more than a design reason?

I think you will actually end up preferring the larger size. I was also pro-smaller iPhone size but it's great having something larger. It doesn't fit so easily into a single hand but otherwise it's really nicer.