iPhone appeal slipping

Dolby said:
Everything requires shortcuts or workarounds ... and new owners start hearing words repeated very often ...
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And buying a USB hub and 64gb sd card to swap media players on a single movie because you just don't have the bandwidth to use a proper cloud service isn't a shortcut/workaround? Give it a rest will you?

Ghetto-mod sort of way? Explain.
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It ain't pretty, but it's cheap and it does the trick.

Jail breaking sounds better than all the rooting you have to do on android. And then some of the roms result in some of your device functions going unsupported.
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Yeppo. I love how the anti-Apple types dismiss jailbreaking because it means 'voiding warranty' though, as if Samsung is going to honour my bricked Helly Belly SGS1.
 
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BeVonk! said:
As per my photo I can connect three USB devices plus normal and micro SD cards. That expands the flash memory directly available to my device by as much the size of the memory is I can buy. Immediately available. No internet connection required. Plenty of movies for kids on long trips. All the music I own right there. Books, magazines ... all of 'em. I can go on holiday/trips with tons of stuff. No laptop required. 64GB iPad? I have way way more available. But the iFans will convince all the cloud is where they store their tons of stuff and they will have internet everywhere. I can just see that iCloud struggle with that GPRS connection that comes and goes. Nee wat mense ... Some things just works better.
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Say what?

Do you know how much 700mb Barbie movies I can pack onto my 64gb ipad? And music? More than enough to keep the kids happy (movies) and me (music). Books, well that's the Kindle. You're trying to convince yourself of a superior solution to a generally non-existant problem.

You see, it goes something like this. Android users rush into thread, dis Apple left, right and centre, points out perceived failures. Apple users take time to patiently explain to nerd-herd why they are not necessarily failures, tries to put in context and perspective. Apple users then accused of being indoctrinated mindless iZombies. Repeat ad nauseas infinitum.
 
undesign said:
Say what?

Do you know how much 700mb Barbie movies I can pack onto my 64gb ipad? And music? More than enough to keep the kids happy (movies) and me (music). Books, well that's the Kindle. You're trying to convince yourself of a superior solution to a generally non-existant problem.

You see, it goes something like this. Android users rush into thread, dis Apple left, right and centre, points out perceived failures. Apple users take time to patiently explain to nerd-herd why they are not necessarily failures, tries to put in context and perspective. Apple users then accused of being indoctrinated mindless iZombies. Repeat ad nauseas infinitum.
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Hoots mon! I can pack a week of kiddies tv watching onto my 16gb iPad. And a whole buttload of those fantastic kiddie learning apps which the iPad excels in and Android..is...a bit of a barren wasteland for, tbh.
 
cerebus said:
Hoots mon! I can pack a week of kiddies tv watching onto my 16gb iPad. And a whole buttload of those fantastic kiddie learning apps which the iPad excels in and Android..is...a bit of a barren wasteland for, tbh.
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Dafuq, Android totally pwns iOS, Apple is teh suxxorz, mk?

Or something to that effect... :-)
 
Undesign, not so. Many of us Android users have been inside the Apple camp and we - me for sure - have fought the good fight for Apple for a long time. Many still have Apple devices ( I have iPad 1 and 2, iPhone 4, iPod Touch, and several iPods). How many Apple fans have properly ventured into the Android side to give fair opinions on both sides? Very few. On the Android side I have Galaxy S, Galaxy S2, SGT10.1, SGT 7" Plus, HTC Flyer. You see, I've been there, done that, and got the T-shirts. I intimately know the strengths and weaknesses of each side. Not just an ignorant ill informed Android fan coming to stir trouble.
 
I've been through the growing pains with Android. I've voiced my frustrations with Honeycomb here on many occasions. But as things stand right now Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean is so far ahead of iOS that iOS look like it was designed by Fisher-Price.
 
BeVonk! said:
I've been through the growing pains with Android. I've voiced my frustrations with Honeycomb here on many occasions. But as things stand right now Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean is so far ahead of iOS that iOS look like it was designed by Fisher-Price.
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Maybe, but at least my "fisher-price" iOS phone doesn't crash and reboot 5 times a day (unlike my Asus tablet). Guess which is more useful to me - a novel but unstable Android interface or a tried and tested rock solid iOS?
 
BeVonk! said:
I've been through the growing pains with Android. I've voiced my frustrations with Honeycomb here on many occasions. But as things stand right now Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean is so far ahead of iOS that iOS look like it was designed by Fisher-Price.
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The fisher-price analogy is so 2000's... was aimed at the XP theme and interface. iOS is elegant.
 
garp said:
Maybe, but at least my "fisher-price" iOS phone doesn't crash and reboot 5 times a day (unlike my Asus tablet). Guess which is more useful to me - a novel but unstable Android interface or a tried and tested rock solid iOS?
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I saw you mention this earlier in the thread. What have you done to your Transformer that you have this issue? I have a TF101 and a SGT10.1 and neither of them crash or reboot - ever.

Think you got a hardware fault. Not an OS fault?
 
cerebus said:
And buying a USB hub and 64gb sd card to swap media players on a single movie because you just don't have the bandwidth to use a proper cloud service isn't a shortcut/workaround? Give it a rest will you?



It ain't pretty, but it's cheap and it does the trick.



Yeppo. I love how the anti-Apple types dismiss jailbreaking because it means 'voiding warranty' though, as if Samsung is going to honour my bricked Helly Belly SGS1.
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Hi.

When you press Vol-Down + Power + Home, does it load the boot program?

Sorry if this is off topic.
 
Mike Smit said:
Guess sarcasm is an instinctive response for you when someone tries to help?

No, was not aware. Got no problems so not bothered to research any.
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Thanks. I apologise if I seemed sarcastic. As you can see this was not a result of me having"done" anything to my TF101 as you suggested.
 
I don't know why people are comparing HTC, Asus, Huawei etc software to iOS, isn't a fair comparison rather between Jellybean (Galaxy Nexus, or any other phone you feel like flashing it on) to iOS? I agree with comments that iOS has lost it's edge as I have many friends at work showing off their 4S's but when you compare a Galaxy Nexus running Jellybean to the latest iOS and going through apps, calender, emails, SMS, keypad etc (general use), Jellybean is big step ahead now. The animations are more eye catching, there is more subtle colour\shading touches which makes Jellybean VERY sleek and fresh. Sorry to say that iOS SMS keyboard, keypad look VERY bland and small, dare i say emotionless! I think iOS would benefit hugely from a larger screen and colour! The 4S comes across like a very plain uninspired phone (hardware is amazing though!) that FEELS nice in hand but aesthetically, the design looks old and iOS is VERY plain.

So i predict subtle changes to iOS for iPhone 5, like Android ICS to JB because everyone knows they need to catch up now...
 
I see there had been lack of innovation with regards to the design of the past few iPhones, they all look practically the same. If the next one looks very similar I think it will start losing more of its appeal. The same goes for iOS, they need to try evolve it abit more on the GUI side.
 
JimboBob said:
I don't know why people are comparing HTC, Asus, Huawei etc software to iOS, isn't a fair comparison rather between Jellybean (Galaxy Nexus, or any other phone you feel like flashing it on) to iOS? I agree with comments that iOS has lost it's edge as I have many friends at work showing off their 4S's but when you compare a Galaxy Nexus running Jellybean to the latest iOS and going through apps, calender, emails, SMS, keypad etc (general use), Jellybean is big step ahead now. The animations are more eye catching, there is more subtle colour\shading touches which makes Jellybean VERY sleek and fresh. Sorry to say that iOS SMS keyboard, keypad look VERY bland and small, dare i say emotionless! I think iOS would benefit hugely from a larger screen and colour! The 4S comes across like a very plain uninspired phone (hardware is amazing though!) that FEELS nice in hand but aesthetically, the design looks old and iOS is VERY plain.

So i predict subtle changes to iOS for iPhone 5, like Android ICS to JB because everyone knows they need to catch up now...
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It's called iOS 6 and there are hundreds of changes...
 
Nether said:
Hi.

When you press Vol-Down + Power + Home, does it load the boot program?

Sorry if this is off topic.
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Sorry I mean.. my hypothetical bricked SGS1 :p

/Running Jelly Bean like a boss.

I see there had been lack of innovation with regards to the design of the past few iPhones, they all look practically the same. If the next one looks very similar I think it will start losing more of its appeal. The same goes for iOS, they need to try evolve it abit more on the GUI side.
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iPhone 2g -> iPhone 3GS: practically identical appearance
iPhone 4 -> iPhone 4S: Also identical appearance

It's certainly time for a new hardware refresh but there's no evidence that it's lost 'innovation'. It's just Apple's release cycle.

So i predict subtle changes to iOS for iPhone 5, like Android ICS to JB because everyone knows they need to catch up now...
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iOS 6 features.

That is a heckuva lot of features coming in the next iOS. And frankly, Jelly Bean's main update from what I can tell is in the smoothness of the UI - an area that had been glaringly lacking before and it's taken them a bloody long time to do something about it. That, and Google Now looks very cool. It certainly doesn't make iOS look like a Fisher Price toy.
 
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cerebus said:
That is a heckuva lot of features coming in the next iOS. And frankly, Jelly Bean's main update from what I can tell is in the smoothness of the UI - an area that had been glaringly lacking before and it's taken them a bloody long time to do something about it. That, and Google Now looks very cool. It certainly doesn't make iOS look like a Fisher Price toy.
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Jelly Bean's changes were quite extensive: http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/

iOS 6 doesn't sound too inspiring:

"We already know everything there is to know about the upcoming iOS 6 and let’s face it – it’s not going to be the jump Apple is trying to convince us it is. Everything is pretty much the same, with a few tweaks here and there, an overdue Facebook integration and extended Siri functionality."

http://blog.gsmarena.com/this-ios-ui-concept-is-what-the-ios-6-should-have-been/
 
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