Is this a valid traffic violation / charge?

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My wife got this last Sunday, it reads "Disobey a stop sing"

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Apart from the fact that the officer could not see the stop line where he was located half way down the bottom of a hill, and apart from the fact that he pulled her over on an unsafe road with a solid white line (forcing other cars into oncoming traffic) - is that a valid charge? "stop sing"?

I told her to go to court on the date at the bottom and just tell them she never disobeyed any "stop sing".
 
My wife got this last Sunday, it reads "Disobey a stop sing"

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Apart from the fact that the officer could not see the stop line where he was located half way down the bottom of a hill, and apart from the fact that he pulled her over on an unsafe road with a solid white line (forcing other cars into oncoming traffic) - is that a valid charge? "stop sing"?

I told her to go to court on the date at the bottom and just tell them she never disobeyed any "stop sing".

Yes its a valid ticket. He doesn't need to see where the line is. if the car never came to a complete stop; she disobeyed the sign. Also, an officer can tell you to park wherever he deems its safe to and that is not a reason to get out of paying for the ticket.
 
Yes its a valid ticket. He doesn't need to see where the line is. if the car never came to a complete stop; she disobeyed the sign. Also, an officer can tell you to park wherever he deems its safe to and that is not a reason to get out of paying for the ticket.

+1

And neither is a spelling mistake. The prosecutor will probably reduce the fine though just for showing up.
 
My wife, she has a PhD in reproductive physiology, currently working at a plant lab. I am a software dev at MiX.

Oh .... maybe the cop thought your missus was on Idols or the voice ........... what with the stop sing. I think you should make a song and dance about this .... feel free to wax lyrical. :D
 
My wife got this last Sunday, it reads "Disobey a stop sing"

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Apart from the fact that the officer could not see the stop line where he was located half way down the bottom of a hill, and apart from the fact that he pulled her over on an unsafe road with a solid white line (forcing other cars into oncoming traffic) - is that a valid charge? "stop sing"?

I told her to go to court on the date at the bottom and just tell them she never disobeyed any "stop sing".
Is there a court date set on there? Or is that the first notice and the summons must still come? If no court date I would wait for summons. I'm waiting over a year now for my summons. Apparently I parked in a no parking area but the other 10 cars next to me were all good. Didn't see any no parking signs either.

Took photos also ready to argue in court lol but no court date yet.
 
+1

And neither is a spelling mistake. The prosecutor will probably reduce the fine though just for showing up.

Regardless of the rest, I think the spelling mistake should be reason enough to throw this out. There is no such thing as a stop sing.
 
My wife got this last Sunday, it reads "Disobey a stop sing"

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Apart from the fact that the officer could not see the stop line where he was located half way down the bottom of a hill, and apart from the fact that he pulled her over on an unsafe road with a solid white line (forcing other cars into oncoming traffic) - is that a valid charge? "stop sing"?

I told her to go to court on the date at the bottom and just tell them she never disobeyed any "stop sing".
Go to court with a tennis ball.

Bounce it agains the wall and ask the judge of he saw it stop before returning.
 
Go to court with a tennis ball.

Bounce it agains the wall and ask the judge of he saw it stop before returning.

Nice, but in all honesty if the charge was spelt correctly I would have told her to still go and ask for a fine reduction since it is currently R1500. At least then the charge would be right and in all fairness she would have to pay a fine, no matter of the circumstances.

But seeing as the charge is regarding a stop sing I think this is not a valid offence. I ride past that stop every day and there is no singing at all.
 
just don't pay it simple
Just trying to gauge if others also think the charge is invalid. I'm not a legal expert, but I would hazard a guess that things like charges and violations need to be without ambiguity.
 
I'm guessing if the offence number to the left of the description is correct spelling mistakes don't matter.

I've received fines written in Afrikaans which were meaningless to me at the time although the conversation with the traffic cop about the reason I was stopped was in English (Engels of Afrikaans Meneer?).
 
It says she's charged under Section 58(1) of the NRTA (act 93 of 1996).

58. (1) Subject to subsection (3), no person shall, unless otherwise
directed by a traffic officer, fail to comply with any direction conveyed by a
road traffic sign displayed in the prescribed manner.

Don't think the spelling mistake will make a difference.
 
Ja, I think it's valid even with the spelling mistake. The sense is obvious, and the prosecutor will probably fix the spelling in the summons. When it gets to court, a 30-second cross-examination will quickly reveal what the real sense is.

I agree with genetic - go see them and get it reduced. Then Wet van Transvaal applies.
 
Fair enough, so basically the whole charge field on the form in invalid then and could actually be omitted?
 
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