Is Ubuntu innovative or reckless?

This sort of strategy is why Linux is doomed to fail on the desktop.

Users own PC's to do work on unlike Linux "Users" who own PC's to install and fiddle with the latest version of their chosen Linux distro every three to six months.

Take Windows - you buy a copy, install and and you are sorted for three or four years and you download a few patches and one or two service packs and everything just works. No massive user experience changes everytime some arb geek in a basement somewhere gets a bee in his bonnet.

The PC world changes often enough without this sort of crap happening every 6 months.

The Linux community just doesn't get it.
 
BobsLawnService said:
This sort of strategy is why Linux is doomed to fail on the desktop.

Users own PC's to do work on unlike Linux "Users" who own PC's to install and fiddle with the latest version of their chosen Linux distro every three to six months.

Take Windows - you buy a copy, install and and you are sorted for three or four years and you download a few patches and one or two service packs and everything just works. No massive user experience changes everytime some arb geek in a basement somewhere gets a bee in his bonnet.

The PC world changes often enough without this sort of crap happening every 6 months.

The Linux community just doesn't get it.
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Troll alert!!
 
BobsLawnService said:
The PC world changes often enough without this sort of crap happening every 6 months.
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that is exactly why they release new versions so often. because 4 years is too long to have to wait for your os to play catch up to the changes that are happening around you. Anyway you dont need to format everytime a new versions is released, you just click upgrade and it does it all for you, exactly like a windows service pack. I personally like to format every time because it forces you to clean house. My windows box is a mess and running at half its speed because of all the cr@p on it.
 
ave, but that is kind of the point. For most users the fast pace of the IT world is a negative thing. They want 3-4 years of stability. The UI stays the same and things work the way they expect them to.

Linux users seem to think that everyone is as technical as they are and enjoy having to keep up with technology. Before Linux gets widely accepted they're going to have to realise that the OS doesn't matter. It's just a tool that allows them to do what they need to do. They don't want to feel obligated to upgrade their tool they have just become used to just because if they don't they're going to be left behind.
 
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What Shuttleworth should do is swap the UI out and deliver a full featured OS in three to four years time when it is done. Call it Ubuntu 2k14 and make sure that it is a better desktop UI than whatever it is that MS releases. Along the way he ahould market it to the consumer through consumer chanels. If he wants to release a few beta releases for the technical crowd then so be it.
 
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BobsLawnService said:
What Shuttleworth should do is swap the UI out and deliver a full featured OS in three to four years time when it is done. Call it Ubuntu 2k14 and make sure that it is a better desktop UI than whatever it is that MS releases. Along the way he ahould market it to the consumer through consumer chanels. If he wants to release a few beta releases for the technical crowd then so be it.
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+1

They have some really, really good ideas. Each time there is a release I read about it, get excited, install it, format and put Windows back on. They are so close...
 
Can't add quote on the iPhone app but the two posts above are spot on. Don't keep doing little updates. Make a really really good one and it will work. Build a better mousetrap...
 
BobsLawnService said:
ave, but that is kind of the point. For most users the fast pace of the IT world is a negative thing. They want 3-4 years of stability. The UI stays the same and things work the way they expect them to.

Linux users seem to think that everyone is as technical as they are and enjoy having to keep up with technology. Before Linux gets widely accepted they're going to have to realise that the OS doesn't matter. It's just a tool that allows them to do what they need to do. They don't want to feel obligated to upgrade their tool they have just become used to just because if they don't they're going to be left behind.
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I think we are referring to different things though- Dont get put off by the unity change, because that is really unusual- that is the first major design change in years. Over the last 2 years that I have been with ubuntu they have really only introduced new features, such as ubuntu 1 cloud support, social networking support etc, and then ironed out the user experience niggles. eg problems with sound, and 3G etc. They arent some obscure technical changes. If you look at ubuntu 8.10 and 10.10 the interface is identical. If that is still not acceptable however, you can use the long term releases, such as 10.04, which is consistent for the next 4 releases. So basically you have the best of both world- ubuntu long term release and standard release.
 
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