Is Ubuntu innovative or reckless?

Elf-San said:
Tried using Ubantu,but after using Windows my entire life I found it way to complex and dull...Maybe these new changes will help...:o
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Try Ubuntu instead. I've never tried Ubantu before... probably a cheap knock off of Ubuntu. Ubuntu will undoubtedly be easier. I've also been a long time Windows user, and found it easy to pick up...
 
No wonder no users of Linux find the Linux community arrogant. Can we please have some type of a standard and not constant disaray

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Elf-San said:
Tried using Ubantu,but after using Windows my entire life I found it way to complex and dull...Maybe these new changes will help...:o
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OK, I'm gonna assume you're being serious - try Linux Mint.
 
Synaesthesia said:
Well if you want business as usual, there are a million and one other generic distributions out there. Someone has to make the innovations.
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It seems Unity is the only Ubuntu specific thing. What with Wayland already being a project that was in the works.
 
A little o/t but...

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Looks like they're all groping each other.
 
BGE said:
Great thanks... now can someone please work on a port of Photoshop for Linux distros... pretty please! :)
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Well there is Gimp. Which is pretty good, I use it quite a bit. However, that said, it doesn't come close to photoshop.
 
Linoman said:
No wonder no users of Linux find the Linux community arrogant. Can we please have some type of a standard and not constant disaray

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is that what makes linux linux. the fact that you are not held down to any particular software?
 
Most people resist change. I was a long-time kde user. I love the network transparency. However, at the time that I made the move to kubuntu, the package manager (adept) had some issues with proxies. So I decided to use ubuntu until they sorted it out. I am sure they have sorted it out by now, but I have still not moved back to kubuntu. I get by in gnome, but I still miss some of the features in kde. As for Unity. I downloaded Ubuntu NR about a year ago and tried it on my netbook. It differed just enough from Ubuntu that I never really used it. I am sure that once they change, like everybody else, I will bitch for a month and then I will get use to it.
 
Interesting you should say...

jak3 said:
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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"Nothing ventured, Nothing gained" was the slogan of Mark Shuttleworth's venture capital company HBD VC. I guess Mark lives by those words.
 
ave said:
which version was that?
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That was 8.04 - granted things have changed, but I've settled on Mac now which has worked for me. Don't get me wrong, I think that today, if I was a standard home user, I would take Linux over Windows any day. I recommended it to my folks too, as they don't have the cash to pay huge amounts for an OS and Office... Add VMware to Linux and even unless you're a serious gamer, I'd avoid Windows like the plague.
 
Well I say innovative, Ubuntu needs to set themselves apart from the other Distros. I'm also very sure there will be a GNUBUNTU or something spin for those who want Gnome, just like we have Kubuntu and Lubuntu, amongst others.

Looks like Fedora is going to move to wayland too, which is great news, having two of the most popular deskop distros means better support and, hopefully, drivers.
 
I love Ubuntu.

If I want to do some serious coding and work, I boot up in Ubuntu.

If I want to play, I boot up in Windows.
 
hammell said:
That was 8.04 - granted things have changed, but I've settled on Mac now which has worked for me. Don't get me wrong, I think that today, if I was a standard home user, I would take Linux over Windows any day. I recommended it to my folks too, as they don't have the cash to pay huge amounts for an OS and Office... Add VMware to Linux and even unless you're a serious gamer, I'd avoid Windows like the plague.
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the first version I used was 8.10, and when I used that I also didn't feel that it was good enough to recommend to other people just then. by 9.10 they had sorted out most of the hiccups, and now 10.10 has been an absolute pleasure- I didnt have to install a single driver, even for my printer, it just picked everything up and worked.
 
It's not so much innovation nor recklessness that made the decision - go read some forums the Gnome developers were holding Ubuntu back with their delays. Shuttleworth decided to go with something he has more control over, thereby lowering risk.
 
I am keen on the changes. Even though I am not sure what benefits the new window system will bring. As long as my hardware and fav programs like VLC, Handbrake etc etc still work then its all cool. Oh, and my Nvidia card MUST also be supported otherwise I wont be able to move over to 11.4
 
"You will never come up with anything original if you are not prepared to be wrong" - Sir Ken Robinson.
 
When they introduced that Mac style for the frame/window buttons (you know the "close", "minimise/maximise" etc. buttons) in the top left corner I was pretty irritated. My experience with Macs is limited and I thought I would never get used to it. I eventually adjusted and now whenever I sit in front of a Windows machine or a machine running an alternative desktop environment with the buttons in the top right I always find myself moving my mouse to the top left to close the window before realising that the buttons aren't there :p

Change is cool. Roll on Ubuntu... just please don't bloat too much... oh and what the heck is up with that "service" command? It squeals at me every single time I go to /etc/init.d/ to restart something instead of using "service". It never used to squeal before it just let me get on with what I was doing!
 
ave said:
the first version I used was 8.10, and when I used that I also didn't feel that it was good enough to recommend to other people just then. by 9.10 they had sorted out most of the hiccups, and now 10.10 has been an absolute pleasure- I didnt have to install a single driver, even for my printer, it just picked everything up and worked.
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I found 8.10 to be a particularly bad release. The interface was sluggish and it had numerous bugs that never really got attended to. 8.04 is still one of my favourites. It was still raw enough to allow you to mess around with it but stable enough not to fall over all the time. I remember the days before ATI released these driver installs that have a GUI installer attached. Users are spoilt today. I must admit it is nice that Ubuntu is so user friendly these days and as of 10.04 I will recommend it to new users. It really does have fewer problems and you don't need to buy the latest machine to run it.
 
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