Israel's war on the Arabic language

[Splinter]

You are trolling, he's already said it numerous times.

You're of course welcome to say the same about Arabs.

No he has not. I've always respected your intelligence - don't make me change my view.

And I what exactly am I supposed to say the same about Arabs?

 

[Xarog]

Except Muslim Arabs really are trying to murder Jews and destroy Israel. Jews do see Muslim Arabs as a real threat and for good reason. If it wasn't for those fairly important facts we could perhaps objectively judge Israeli Jews as racist or not, but we can't so you keep screaming racist Jews, we have no way of knowing what criteria you choose to pick sides on. Mine is ideological.

Black racists are really trying to murder me. They kill white people every day... :erm:

 

[OrbitalDawn]

OMG. My point was, that according to you, there is no difference. So just put this debate to rest with a quick and easy sentence. Why can't you?

As is obvious to any intelligent person, the reason you can't is because you cannot do so. Why? That's rather obvious as well....

Why can't you?

No he has not. I've always respected your intelligence - don't make me change my view.

And I what exactly am I supposed to say the same about Arabs?

Yes, he has. What do you think this means? Can you not read, or are you choosing to intentionally project onto him what you want his position to be?

Humanity includes the Jews very much. Humanity includes the non-Jews very much. All are equally part of humanity. Humanity is universally and individually bestowed with basic human integrity and value. It's really not a complicated philosophical/moral/political position, I assure you.

I care for the well-being of the people living inside those nation states. I think arbitrary lines in the sand drawn over culture, race, religion, politics etc. etc. is utterly ****ing pointless.

So yes, that includes the Jews very much.

To use your words:

"Will you please state here, in writing, that you care for the interests of Arabs, and stand with them, at least as much as you do Israel"?

 

[Xarog]

OMG. My point was, that according to you, there is no difference. So just put this debate to rest with a quick and easy sentence. Why can't you?

As is obvious to any intelligent person, the reason you can't is because you cannot do so. Why? That's rather obvious as well....

Because I don't stand with people on the basis of their heritage, race, origin, religion or any of that ****. I think there is something fundamentally wrong with any human being that chooses arbitrary schit like that over an actual living breathing person, dullard.

Edit: And if there is a difference, you have to show it. What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I am completely entitled to assume the negative, which I have done.

 

[Splinter]

Why can't you?

Why can't I what?

 

[Splinter]

Because I don't stand with people on the basis of their heritage, race, origin, religion or any of that ****. I think there is something fundamentally wrong with any human being that chooses arbitrary schit like that over an actual living breathing person, dullard.

Again with the insults....

And again - all you do is mention the atrocities of Israel towards Palestinians. Which means you are standing for a group, against a group. All based on heritage, race and religion. Do you not get your willful hypocrisy?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Why can't I what?

See the edit.

 

[Xarog]

Again with the insults....

And again - all you do is mention the atrocities of Israel towards Palestinians. Which means you are standing for a group, against a group. All based on heritage, race and religion. Do you not get your willful hypocrisy?

No, what I do is fight with people who deny the existence of the atrocities. And you, apparently.

Small difference.

 

[Splinter]

See the edit.

See my reply to that post.

Seeing as you are someone who is fixated on semantics, it is obvious you thought you were being very clever (just for a change ) with this specific terminology.

Very much = not totally


"are they not", with a question mark afterwards, means just another dig at them.

Anyway - this will just make you go into other deluge of slip-sliding verbal theatrics. Doesn't camouflage your true beliefs though

 

[OrbitalDawn]

See my reply to that post.

I just see you projecting, tbh. You didn't answer the question either... So you accuse him of slip-sliding, yet you do the same thing...

 

[Nick333]

Black racists are really trying to murder me. They kill white people every day... :erm:

Ah, yes and all blacks share this racist ideology that requires them to martyr themselves in an attempt to destroy white people. Gotcha.
The parallels between SA and Palestine/Israel are truly uncanny.

 

[Splinter]

See the edit.

No, what I do is fight with people who deny the existence of the atrocities. And you, apparently.

Small difference.

Umm - no. I have already stated that I agree that Israel has also committed atrocities.

But, once-a-frikken-gain - you are focusing on the atrocities committed by Israel - which means you are looking at nations. And totally ignoring the reciprocal violence. Which means you have a view which is tilted towards one demographic over the other.

Which means your embracing-all-humanity-equally claim is utter garbage.

 

[Splinter]

I just see you projecting, tbh. You didn't answer the question either... So you accuse him of slip-sliding, yet you do the same thing...

FFS - for the third time - what must I answer?

And what am I projecting?

Try to answer this time rather than make silly assertions.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

FFS - for the third time - what must I answer?

And what am I projecting?

Try to answer this time rather than make silly assertions.

For the 3rd time...

"Will you please state here, in writing, that you care for the interests of Arabs, and stand with them, at least as much as you do Israel"?

And you're projecting what you want his position to be, not taking it as what he actually (repeatedly) says it is.

 

[Dave]

Oh dear in before the mental gymnastics by the pro Israeli forum members.

I wonder,will any of them be decent enough to condemn people being racist?

I'm not passing judgement or comment on the allegation at all, check what I said, just that the headline is not really accurate to the reported story.

Let me help you. My first post:

The headline doesn't quite match the actual story.

 

[Splinter]

For the 3rd time...

"Will you please state here, in writing, that you care for the interests of Arabs, and stand with them, at least as much as you do Israel"?

And you're projecting what you want his position to be, not taking it as what he actually (repeatedly) says it is.

Bleh - are you getting very old? Hehe - and it's easy.

I hereby, in writing, say the following:

I care for the interests of Arabs, and stand with them, at least as much as I do Jews.

 

[Nick333]

You know, I wonder if the real view of the so called Pro-Palestinian lobby is not just a little bit on the softly-bigoted towards Arabs more than they just kind of think Jews deserve suicide bombing. Is the argument here that the Jews should know better than to fear and hate their enemies, while Arabs can't be expected to given their virulently racist and aggressive religion and the fact that they love their camels more than their wives?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Bleh - are you getting very old? Hehe - and it's easy.

I hereby, in writing, say the following:

I care for the interests of Arabs, and stand with them, at least as much as I do Jews.

Cool.

They need support in many of the schithole countries where dictators and autocrats rule with an iron fist.

And let's not forget the Iranians (who aren't Arabs) who wilt under a theocracy.

 

[Xarog]

Umm - no. I have already stated that I agree that Israel has also committed atrocities.

Right. So I with them, and then I fight with you. I'm fighting with you for completely different reasons, clearly.

But, once-a-frikken-gain - you are focusing on the atrocities committed by Israel - which means you are looking at nations. And totally ignoring the reciprocal violence. Which means you have a view which is tilted towards one demographic over the other.

This is a thread about Israel's behaviour. Do you see any threads with people making news about how horrible Saudi etc. is? No. Do you see people saying poor Saudi in those threads? No. If you did, you'd also see me arguing with them, I promise. But until then...

Which means your embracing-all-humanity-equally claim is utter garbage.

Not really.

 

[Splinter]

And you're projecting what you want his position to be, not taking it as what he actually (repeatedly) says it is.

Puh-lease.

By the way - do you think I am Jewish?