Know your consumer rights!

@ Arthur, you asked: Why 90 days and not 94.5 days? Or six months? Or five years?

First prize would be for ISP's to comply with the 3 year data rollover as legislated by CPA. I personally feel this is overkill as the average user don't spend R999 on a 20Gb bundle to use over say 20 mths.

The average user is prepared to spend R299 on a 3gb bundle and use it over 3 months instead of buying a 1gb bundle @ R149 pm that will cost him R447 for 3gb over 3 mths. Hence my call for AT LEAST a 3 mths rollover period on data.
 
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You're entitled to your opinion, and I will defend to death your right to have and hold it.

Just don't impose it on others by trying to make it the law of the land so that Caesar enforces it with policemen, courts and prisons.
 
It's already the Law, S48 of CPA. ISPs should discontinue their unfair and unjust practice of robbing consumers of their unused data after 30 days!
 
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They're we go again. Sigh.

Robbing?

This is now getting tedious. Get educated about the terms you use. Robbery, eh? Really, CJ. The hole just gets deeper.
 
Robbing = Taking what's not yours.

Consumer pays, data bundle is property of consumer. ISP takes what's not theirs ie ISP is robbing consumer. Simple.

You're a bit over educated for your own good and don't comprehend the meaning of such a simple word as robbing.

Definition of Rob, v. i. To take that which belongs to another, without right or permission,
 
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If I look at the first post by the op, this thread looked like it was going to be something quite useful to some of us that may not know our rights.

Then it turned out to bashing the networks, slinging around your intellectual capital and then more ego trips and personal abuse.

What a waste!!!!!!!
 
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If I look at the first post by the op, this thread looked like it was going to be something quite useful to some of us that may not know our rights.

Then it turned out to bashing the networks, slinging around your intellectual capital and then more ego trips and personal abuse.

What a waste!!!!!!!
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Ignore the bad, take the good.

My humblest apology for putting everyone through this ordeal, but I couldn't allow the unsubstantiated challenges to go unchallenged.
 
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Arthur said:
You're entitled to your opinion, and I will defend to death your right to have and hold it.

Just don't impose it on others by trying to make it the law of the land so that Caesar enforces it with policemen, courts and prisons.
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How would this proposed new law affect you? Employee or associated with the company?
 
So you aver.

But they get the full agreement of the consumer as part of the limited-time contract. So, permission/agreement is not absent, and therefore there cannot be a misappropriation or theft. The consumer has agreed to those terms.

End of story.

It seems you are trying to impose terms on the other party that they are not willing to agree to. And you want to use the State to do so. I object.

So much for justice, eh.
 
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Even though the consumer has agreed to the terms, the terms are unjust and unfair and in violation of S48 of CPA. If ISPs don't want to willingly comply to the Act, they should be forced to do so and this is why Captain-Justice is taking up the fight on behalf of all consumers whose consumer rights are being trampled on by corporate bullies.
 
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Forced? FORCED??

Shamepies, man. You need to learn your rights, man up and get those people arrested.

Personally, I've never heard of a single case in all my life where a cellular company has forced anyone to do anything. Everyone is always quite free to simply walk out and deal with someone else, or no-one. No question of force. Ever.

Or maybe you are exaggerating again, using dramatic and emotive language to demand more? By all means stamp your foot. Or get informed and liberate yourself. But flinging wild and perhaps defamatory words about will get you nowhere.
 
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CJ: For the record, I am not an employee, supplier to, customer or shareholder of Vodacom. I have had both postpaid and prepaid contracts with all the MNOs. I have absolutely nothing to do with any cellular company in any capacity other than as an ornery user.

My interest is solely that of justice, equity, fairness - within the ambit of free contract.
 
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Forced? FORCED??

Shamepies, man. You need to learn your rights, man up and get those people arrested.

Personally, I've never heard of a single case in all my life where a cellular company has forced anyone to do anything. Everyone is always quite free to simply walk out and deal with someone else, or no-one. No question of force. Ever.

Or maybe you are exaggerating again, using dramatic and emotive language to demand more? By all means stamp your foot. Or get informed and liberate yourself. But flinging wild and perhaps defamatory words about will get you nowhere.
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You're misreading my statement. I'm not saying the ISP is forcing the client, I'm saying the ISP should be forced by the Law (NCC) to comply with CPA. Laws are there to be followed and if you don't want to do it voluntarily, you should be forced, penalised or incarcerated. That's how a law abiding society functions.
 
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CJ: For the record, I am not an employee, supplier to, customer or shareholder of Vodacom. I have had both postpaid and prepaid contracts with all the MNOs. I have absolutely nothing to do with any cellular company in any capacity other than as an ornery user.
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My humblest apology for coming to that erroneous conclusion, you just sound so anti-consumer rights ...
 
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CJ: My interest is solely that of justice, equity, fairness - within the ambit of free contract.
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If scientists come up with a new type of fuel that evaporates after 30 days of purchase, will that be fair, just and equitable?
 
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