Local Loop Unbundling: Please give your feedback

[The Mechanic]

Definitely 3 billion! I've worked in networks for 20 years - the rampant cable theft is something that other countries don't have to deal with and which everyone seems to forget when trying to work out why Telkom charges so much.

 

[MegasXLR]

Definitely 3 billion! I've worked in networks for 20 years - the rampant cable theft is something that other countries don't have to deal with and which everyone seems to forget when trying to work out why Telkom charges so much.

Why do we have to pay for the crime others commit? That is ridiculous to say the least.

 

[lordrage]

Full please, dont see why I must pay line rental and access rental.

 

[dominic]

This is completely ridiculous. What we need are operators with the right to provide FIBRE TO THE DOOR. Unbundling the COPPER Local Loop is like announcing that Steam Powered Vehicles will no longer need a pedestrian to walk in front of the vehicle with a warning sign. Come on guys, we have had internal combustion engine for years and even this motor is now redundant. We living in the 21st Century not the 19th Century as TELKOM would like us to believe, SO NOT THANK YOU.

ZA-FREE

its not about copper...its about the local loop - whether it may be copper, fibre, laser-optic or, dare i say it, frequency - and about setting out a scheme for how it is being shared. its pretty clear that copper is legacy and the focus very much has to be on ensuring that future fibre loops are open access from the beginning

 

[martin]

Full unbundling. No more Telkom monopoly.

This. Enough said.

 

[OverKill69]

Full bundling...

If a ISP or any other VoIP, Data or Voice operator has access to build their own network on top of the existing infrastructure if it suits them.
The most important factor is the customer and the quality of service.

Ultimately to have DSLAMs on every block so our last mile is LESS THAN A MILE... ADSL2+
ISPs and other operators could maintain lines and BE RESPONSIBLE for the entire process. INCLUDING DITCHING THE DATA CARRYING COSTS TO PLUG INTO TELKOM'S NETWORK.

Competition will keep prices down

or am I dreaming????

 

[Ispy]

Who pays for maintenance? Telkom should charge " time and material" basis like plumbers do, if contracted to maintain. Neotel guys Telkom must be told to be 10percent efficient in one year ! = plain language= fire 20% of workers

 

[Asterix_T]

I voted for Bitstream access (wholesale access). All the others will require substantial capital out lay by the other companies wanting access. Who will pay to recover this capital outlay, the consumer. So where is the saving to the customer.

 

[Tns]

will there actually come something of this?

 

[Knersus]

At the end of the day, it's not the real issue. The real issue is access to the International links. We can run 1Gbps all day between JHB and CTN, but if we are strangled on the undersea cables, what's the point?

HU?! Are you serious now? The undersea cables are sorted it's local access thats the problem.

 

[325i]

Full local loop unbundling (full access), this will bring down the prices of adsl in S.A....which is a very good positive

 

[dadiggle]

Option 5
Throw the door open. Give a License to any company who wants to put up shop here. Hardlines cell whatever. ^That's just another rip off going to happen

 

[The_Ogre]

I'm hoping for Full local loop unbundling (full access)

 

[Juice]

Definitely 3 billion! I've worked in networks for 20 years - the rampant cable theft is something that other countries don't have to deal with and which everyone seems to forget when trying to work out why Telkom charges so much.

If it's cost them that much to maintain the copper, why haven't they converted it to fiber yet? Oh wait, they have. Fibre and microwave. I don't think copper theft has as much to do with the 'last mile' as with the more volumous backhaul. And I partly blame government. They could have regulated the copper scrap metal trade years ago to curb the theft, but they haven't.

Juice

 

[Juice]

or am I dreaming????

Perhaps a little...

A mini DSLAM costs about a million, I've been told by Telkom when I asked why they don't have one in my area. You'll need quite a high population density to make that work, I'm afraid, and most of our leafy suburbs probably don't have enough subscribers per block.

I'd guess the answer lies with fibre.

Juice

 

[gorgamin]

Full Unbundling

I vote full unbundling,

The undersea links are already there... the only thing stopping us from cheaper ADSL and better speeds is the LLU thats taking so long, the rest will follow and become viable.
If the government truly wants us to develop as a country and as a future knowledge based society, they should make internet speed paramount among their agenda's.
We have to be at the top of the pack, as in 100mbit connections as a normality in every home. Only then will it make South Africa's scientific ecosystem viable for research and development.
Do they truly expect the SKA square kilometer array telescope in the karoo to operate on our ridiculous internet links? how interfering would this be to collaborating research teams?
High internet speed is linked directly to your technological prowess, $20 US for 50mbit connections in Japan is the norm in most city homes, same with south korea.
Spend our entire budget on this if you have to... I promise the rest will follow afterwards.

 

[dadiggle]

no 1 is called unbundled access btw
That's to increase competition. Look at the prices I don't see anything but 1 to help out this shyt hole of a tele industry of us

 

[Key]

In many cases, Vodacom has already positioned themselves right next to the Telkom Dslam and is waiting for the LLU to unbundle. If every one did this, it will give any provider the control over the network and ensure that we as consumers have only one point of contact when something fails in stead of having to rely on 3rd party services.... There is a huge capital involved, which the networks already have with the trillions they made in huge profits from us poor consumers. I am hoping for the full LLU option.

 

[quikdine]

do not forgaot Vodascum was one Telkom Owned.

As far as charges are concerned a NGO should be created to control the LLU and they charge the service provides axxess for maintance cost ect. the NGO board should be made up from the service providers each SP has one vote to put a board member in place and there needs to be 7 or 13 none paid board members to run the NGO for the LL. No big SP then can control the charges and put a smaller SP out of business and all the SPs pay the same for axxess per users no discounts for larger SP that makes the playing feild level.

 

[calwynb]

All four should be implemented so that all isps and telecoms that want to participate can decide at what level they can/want to access the local loop.