Looking for Replacement ISP

[K-VI]

Good day All,

I was with MWEB on a 1MBPS uncapped account. I received the email regarding excessive downloading bla bla bla, and had my account downgraded and cancelled effective End Sept. On average I download +-150GB a month and use majority P2P downloads day and night.

I want to know as a replacement ISP, would it be better to go with Afrihost, whose main page has:
1Mbps ro*********y@afrihost.co.za 302.56 GB R197 R0.65

or to go with Openweb special for a Gamers King (Downloaders Bling) for R176 a month. I also normally play games in the evening and would prefer that I get priority on my Games(All downloads on hold while playing games).

Does anybody have any of these accounts with their respective ISP's? I do not want an ISP that will throttle or shape due to high downloads, so no ISP with a roll over window. I do not mind if the ISP slows down during the day due to high network load, but that should not happen everyday. I have read a lot and ca.nnot find an ISP that meets those requirements. Any experiences and suggestions would be highly appreciated

 

[m0zy]

I am moving ISP at the end of this month also.
Going back to Axxess. Need a static IP

Last time I was with them I downloaded on average 300GB a month with no problems at all.
I can't comment on gaming or P2P but the bulk of my downloads was via NZB's.

 

[koeks525]

If you are still looking around for a new ISP, I would say go to their sites and give their trial accounts a spin.

I was on Openweb Uncapped Lite - managed to get 180GB done in downloads, web browsing and gaming (had me a 1mbps line). They didn't throttle me - they just shape the network during the day, and then unshape it after hours.

 

[K-VI]

Thanks for the reply m0zy. I have had a look at Axxess, but the reason I will not go with them is their AUP.

"Daytime Policy
There's a usage threshold (as described below). Should a product threshold be exceeded during any 10 consecutive calendar day period, the speed for the respective service will be halved between 7:00am to 19:00pm during weekdays."

That will not meet my requirements. Before even trying them, that part tells me Nooo. lol

 

[K-VI]

koeks525, Openweb does seems like a good one mainly since they have the Gamers King (Downloaders Bling) on special which I heard is the same as their Gold Account.

I question the Afrihost uncapped page that says a person on a 1mbps uncapped account downloaded 302GB in a month. That seems a bit suspect to me. Did anybody reach that kinda of downloads on Openweb or Afrihost, because if that ISP let you do it and did not throttle or shape you for doing it, I want to sign up with them.. lol

 

[AwTroN]

I would go with Axxess for my adsl line only - they are the cheapest in terms or adsl line rental, especially for UP to 10mbit lines.

As for bandwidth, I would go with Openweb.

I tried the trial accounts for all ISP's, and Openweb is by far the best when it comes to Uncapped, if you're wanting to use it in the day and during the night.

 

[K-VI]

Thanks AwTroN. It seems that the scale is leaning towards Openweb. Can anyone confirm the difference between Openweb Gold and Openweb Gamers King special? Is the Gamers King special new? I cannot seem to find a lot of reviews of this package, but dam it is cheaper then MWEB and might be work a try. Will wait till close to the end of the month before changing over. Will then be able to give a review on that specific package.

If the Gamers King is the same as the Gold, why don't all the Gold clients change to the Gamers King option due to the saving of around R100 p/m?

 

[AfriMan]

Good day All,

I was with MWEB on a 1MBPS uncapped account. I received the email regarding excessive downloading bla bla bla, and had my account downgraded and cancelled effective End Sept. On average I download +-150GB a month and use majority P2P downloads day and night.

I want to know as a replacement ISP, would it be better to go with Afrihost, whose main page has:
1Mbps ro*********y@afrihost.co.za 302.56 GB R197 R0.65

or to go with Openweb special for a Gamers King (Downloaders Bling) for R176 a month. I also normally play games in the evening and would prefer that I get priority on my Games(All downloads on hold while playing games).

Does anybody have any of these accounts with their respective ISP's? I do not want an ISP that will throttle or shape due to high downloads, so no ISP with a roll over window. I do not mind if the ISP slows down during the day due to high network load, but that should not happen everyday. I have read a lot and ca.nnot find an ISP that meets those requirements. Any experiences and suggestions would be highly appreciated

Nice to see that we are in the running as your new ISP. I'll let the others give you their experiences, but please drop me a PM if you have ANY questions about how we work and what we do

 

[K-VI]

I was really considering Afrihost until I carefully read the AUP policy which states: "we will shape non-Realtime services during our busiest times. Non-real time services will be shaped on a sliding scale, with our higher bandwidth users getting shaped more than lower bandwidth users, only on these services (NEVER on real time services).". I want to know whether a person can reach 300GB as your signup page states and whether that person can do that every month or whether his shaping will be affected the following months due to that one month.

 

[AfriMan]

I was really considering Afrihost until I carefully read the AUP policy which states: "we will shape non-Realtime services during our busiest times. Non-real time services will be shaped on a sliding scale, with our higher bandwidth users getting shaped more than lower bandwidth users, only on these services (NEVER on real time services).". I want to know whether a person can reach 300GB as your signup page states and whether that person can do that every month or whether his shaping will be affected the following months due to that one month.

We obviously can't guarantee how much bandwidth you'll download every month. It depends on how you download, as well as how people in your region are using the internet. From our side, our intention is always to do the least amount of shaping to the least amount of clients at all times. If we can let clients be unshaped completely, we will definitely do so, based on the available capacity at any given time. This is different to how other ISP's shape, which is at fixed time, whether there is spare capacity or not. The leader board is there to show how much real users are able to download in a 30 day period. How they do it is pretty much up to them.

 

[koeksGHT]

We obviously can't guarantee how much bandwidth you'll download every month. It depends on how you download, as well as how people in your region are using the internet. From our side, our intention is always to do the least amount of shaping to the least amount of clients at all times. If we can let clients be unshaped completely, we will definitely do so, based on the available capacity at any given time. This is different to how other ISP's shape, which is at fixed time, whether there is spare capacity or not. The leader board is there to show how much real users are able to download in a 30 day period. How they do it is pretty much up to them.

Sitting in office I imagine watching list of top ADSL users! Have an office bet to see who will use most in a month?

My guess what you guys should be doing

 

[Chevron]

I was really considering Afrihost until I carefully read the AUP policy which states: "we will shape non-Realtime services during our busiest times. Non-real time services will be shaped on a sliding scale, with our higher bandwidth users getting shaped more than lower bandwidth users, only on these services (NEVER on real time services).". I want to know whether a person can reach 300GB as your signup page states and whether that person can do that every month or whether his shaping will be affected the following months due to that one month.

If you're worried about shaping just grab an unshaped account. Afrihost's unshaped accounts are quite cheap:
http://www.afrihost.com/site/product/business_adsl?src=website_nav

 

[Electric]

We obviously can't guarantee how much bandwidth you'll download every month. It depends on how you download, as well as how people in your region are using the internet. From our side, our intention is always to do the least amount of shaping to the least amount of clients at all times. If we can let clients be unshaped completely, we will definitely do so, based on the available capacity at any given time. This is different to how other ISP's shape, which is at fixed time, whether there is spare capacity or not. The leader board is there to show how much real users are able to download in a 30 day period. How they do it is pretty much up to them.

Calling BS on this pt.
Not that I want to get into a random argument with you as I'm just a stranger with no bearing to this conversation.
But your statement above is clearly not the case when reading feedback threads.
And redirecting him to an unshaped package is also a bit low especially considering he should by rights be able to achieve the 300gb he is after.

I had this same issue with Afrihost when I first decided to find an ISP.
Afrihost seemed like the best option until I read the feedback and the amount of people being throttled/shaped.
Not to say it's any worse than some of the ISPs out there but it's clearly not as per your statements above.
It's a fact that he will be shaped and throttles if his usage his high on Afrihost, not even talking 300gb high.

'If we can let clients be unshaped completely we will definitely do so, based on the available capacity at any given time.'

This argument pretty much lends itself to massive abuse on your parts.

Which it seems is occuring.

 

[Chevron]

Calling BS on this pt.
Not that I want to get into a random argument with you as I'm just a stranger with no bearing to this conversation.
But your statement above is clearly not the case when reading feedback threads.
And redirecting him to an unshaped package is also a bit low especially considering he should by rights be able to achieve the 300gb he is after.

I had this same issue with Afrihost when I first decided to find an ISP.
Afrihost seemed like the best option until I read the feedback and the amount of people being throttled/shaped.
Not to say it's any worse than some of the ISPs out there but it's clearly not as per your statements above.
It's a fact that he will be shaped and throttles if his usage his high on Afrihost, not even talking 300gb high.

'If we can let clients be unshaped completely we will definitely do so, based on the available capacity at any given time.'

This argument pretty much lends itself to massive abuse on your parts.

Which it seems is occuring.

You do realize the 300GBs on a 1Meg line is basically 100% line utilization?

 

[Electric]

I'm not debating that.
I agree fully with many of the statements made.
I just felt the need to voice my opinion, it may well be incorrect.

 

[Chevron]

I'm not debating that.
I agree fully with many of the statements made.
I just felt the need to voice my opinion, it may well be incorrect.

I understand, I just don't think it's fair to expect 100% line utilization from a home account.

 

[K-VI]

I am not looking to do 300GB, but more like 150-200GB a month Maximum. What is wrong is pointing me to a business account if I do not own a business. I do expect some kind of throttling, but should not be based on my high downloads, but instead on network stress. If the network is very busy, slow down everybody by like 0.5% to relieve the stress on the network.

Think that Openweb will be the best by the comments.

 

[Syphonx]

I am not looking to do 300GB, but more like 150-200GB a month Maximum. What is wrong is pointing me to a business account if I do not own a business. I do expect some kind of throttling, but should not be based on my high downloads, but instead on network stress. If the network is very busy, slow down everybody by like 0.5% to relieve the stress on the network.

Think that Openweb will be the best by the comments.

0.5%? That's like removing your valve caps to make your car lighter. If you're expecting 0.5% shaping then get a business account.

 

[K-VI]

I am not looking for 0.5% shaping or throttling, but I expect the ISP to shape/throttle the whole network to give better average experience rather then having a rolling window period for some users. That's why it makes sense to me to shape everyone on the network when the network goes under strain and only shape the current users by 0.5 odd % to give some relief on the network. It is such a small amount that users will not even notice it and everybody will be happy. Just my 2c worth though.

 

[Syphonx]

I am not looking for 0.5% shaping or throttling, but I expect the ISP to shape/throttle the whole network to give better average experience rather then having a rolling window period for some users. That's why it makes sense to me to shape everyone on the network when the network goes under strain and only shape the current users by 0.5 odd % to give some relief on the network. It is such a small amount that users will not even notice it and everybody will be happy. Just my 2c worth though.

The ISP's shape the heavy users first and then move down to the light users as needed