Low Cars / Modded car thread.

Splinter said:
You do realise that will always lower resale value?
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All mods are reversible within a day when it comes to trade in time. Bonus is the car gets traded in with almost new shocks and tyres that were on the stock wheels.
 
SauRoNZA said:
So take a perfectly awesome car and go **** it up to "look better" (which it doesn't by the way).

Sorry I can't be party to this...

None of this is good for the car, German engineers did all the work so stick to their hard work and the huge amount of money you already paid for it instead of putting some cheap **** in place to negate it.
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People and their priorities, *shaking my head*. Creating problems all in the name of looks.

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Dont compress springs.
Rather go for a spring kit like H&R / Eibach etc.
M135i comes with a sports suspension which is 15mm or 1.5cm lower already.
If that is not low enough as it seems then go for a proper spring kit.


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McT said:
One of my former drives was a Jetta TDi, which was a phenomenal car. Fuel economical; went on a sniff of fuel. In the end the reason I let it go was because it was too low and I was always gouging something. It wasn't low, but that experience was enough to make me vow to only look for vehicles with a raised body. Thinking back, I couldn't imagine the experience of going even a cm or 2 lower.
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Same here, my current passat Tdi has the factory r line kit on with factory 17 inch wheels (16 is standard on non r line, so it sits a bit higher) and I regularly scrape the nose on speed bumps. I can't even begin to imagine dropping it. That would just be monumentally retarded.
 
Nothing wrong with lowering your car as long as it improves it.Again you need to spend money on the proper kit else dont waste your time.My 15 year old wrx handles better then most cars around the bends.A new civic type R was battling to keep up with me around the circles recently :crylaugh:
 
ubercal said:
Nothing wrong with lowering your car as long as it improves it.Again you need to spend money on the proper kit else dont waste your time.My 15 year old wrx handles better then most cars around the bends.A new civic type R was battling to keep up with me around the circles recently :crylaugh:
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Your Scooby undoubtedly weighs less than the R and it also puts power down via all 4 wheels- you have a distinct advantage. I would be disappointed if the roles were reversed :)
 
Nivea said:
Hi guys,

I currently drive a BMW M135i and I'd like to get it dropped by around 20-30mm for a better look.

I've currently received 2 quotes, one is for new springs from Hi-Q for R4000 that apparently rivals H&R springs and another for R3000 to press my springs from a different tyre shop , and according to the salesman compressing the springs gives me a softer ride but I'm scared it scrapes against the tyre and isn't good for the cars suspention.

Which one should I opt for? Any help would be appreciated greatly, thanks guys.
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Don't listen to the nay sayers, they're just ordinary folk who don't understand these type of mods (and what you are looking to gain by doing this mod).

A 20-30mm drop is very subtle and will really give your car that awesome look.

H&R , Koni and Bilstein are the three you need to look at, and coilovers is ideally what you need to fit if your pockets are big. Otherwise just buy the springs and all is good.
 
ubercal said:
Nothing wrong with lowering your car as long as it improves it.Again you need to spend money on the proper kit else dont waste your time.My 15 year old wrx handles better then most cars around the bends.A new civic type R was battling to keep up with me around the circles recently :crylaugh:
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post a pic man. Scooby love.
 
Nivea said:
Lmao I'm done asking advice on this forum, 99% of you guys can't give a reason other than " It looks bad "
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Konfab, SauronZA and others have already given good enough advice. Followed a really terribly done Polo the other day. The damn thing was plodding along and bobbing like it doesn't have any damping. The wheels looked like they were touching the body and as someone so rightly predicted, there came a time when car had to go over a speed hump.

I turned into a service station to fill up. I didn't watch the entire agonising manoeuvre. This on road that was fairly even.
 
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ForceFate said:
Konfab, SauronZA and others have already given good enough advice. Followed a really terribly done Polo the other day. The damn thing was plodding along and bobbing like it doesn't have any damping. The wheels looked like they were touching the body and as someone so rightly predicted, there came a time when car had to go over a speed hump.

I turned into a service station to fill up. I didn't watch the entire agonising manoeuvre. This on road that was fairly even.
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its cheap ass cars like polos and golfs that give modifing a bad name .. when you actually start with a decent car and pay proper money then its worth it.
 
Do eeeeeeeet! But only of you go the coil over route... you drive a 135i so the cost of coilies shouldn’t be a problem for u :D
 
ubercal said:
its cheap ass cars like polos and golfs that give modifing a bad name .. when you actually start with a decent car and pay proper money then its worth it.
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Which is pretty much what people here were saying. Have it done by a professional and not just take advice from a salesman who may not be considering handling dynamics of the car.

Like I indicated, the Polo was painful to watch.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Yeah robot-to-robot is silly and doesn't really carry much merit.

I was just hoping for some means of objective confirmation outside of the seat-dyno.

Now the question I'm left with is why go to all that trouble if you aren't really going to drive it for any particular performance reason and baby it instead?

I guess I fall outside your earlier comments because I'm a petrolhead and even so don't see the need to fiddle with suspension and drop the car when it's going to be used on the road as a daily driver.

Based on your comment that you wouldn't buy a car without changing it I would have the exact opposite response because I would question where the value lies in those changes.

To each their own, I just object to the fact that to qualify as a petrolhead you need to make changes to the car.

If anything in my view a petrolhead (or rather a better driver) is the one who can jump into any car and make it work without the need to change it.

As in I would find it more respectable that someone could jump into 5 different stock cars and put decent lap times in on them, than one oke who can only put in decent laps on his own car which he perfectly customized to his driving style.


But the really BURNING question is this : Would you drive a car that says "Stay Woke" (in pink) and still have any self respect left? :)
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Sorry for delayed response. Hate typing on Tapatalk so my replies are short.

Although my car leads a fairly relaxed life, i do some spirited driving occassionally. The mods at this point are purely for aesthetics/sounds. The initial intention when I got the car was to mod it in pursuit of power (hence uprated clutch), but the plan changed when i realised that i don't really want to be driving faster than what the car is capable of in stock form (decision coincidently happened around the birth of my son).

I drive 35km each way for work, mostly freeway, so it helps having the power on tap if need be and be able to maintain 120 easily up a hill.

Admittedly, I am drawn quite strongly to the aesthetics side of modding currently, and especially like lowered cars.. I like a tastefully modded car. Again, this is a preference thing with everyone. Some guys love cars that scrape their sumps on the ground, and the other extreme are the guys who will not even take the dealership branding sticker off their car. To each their own, and respect each others preferences. When i was younger sound was my thing. I still love the performance stuff, but I am happy as a spectator. I will go to drag racing and track events and happily watch on. Getting more cautious as I get older.

And no...I won't drive around with a woke sticker.

I'm ashamed to say that I did go through the sticker phase when I had my Polo and it was my first time having coilovers. Half my back window was filled with stupid ***** like " be patient I'm lowered". One of those face palm memories.
 
ubercal said:
its cheap ass cars like polos and golfs that give modifing a bad name .. when you actually start with a decent car and pay proper money then its worth it.
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I wouldn't consider a Golf to be a cheap car. Exactly why I am driving a 6 year old car. No way I'm spending more than R500k on a Golf.
 
ForceFate said:
Which is pretty much what people here were saying. Have it done by a professional and not just take advice from a salesman who may not be considering handling dynamics of the car.

Like I indicated, the Polo was painful to watch.
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I'll find comfort in Some of the posters here with lowered cars who don't have hassles with humps and are just ordinary motorists who don't require any special privileges such as an absolute right for the exclusive use of two lanes at a speed hump while other motorists wait.

But truth be told the are too many lowered cars which were not done right and professionally comoared to those who got it right, hence the reservations here.
 
konfab said:
1) Don't do it because you are far more likely to break what is an awesome and perfectly optimised piece of machinery.
2) If you don't care about reason, then you should look at maths, not what the car salesman tells you. I highly doubt you or the car salesman have done the maths looking at oscillations and dampening that the ride quality and handling depend on. From a theoretical point of view and assuming your cars suspension is behaving like a linear system, the only thing you need to match is the spring and dampening constants with the ones that are already on your car. In the strictly linear zone of travel (aka normal usage), if you matched them up there would be very little difference in ride comfort or handling.
I highly doubt the springs you have gotten quotes on or the guys from the tyre shop are going to be taking into such things into account.
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Now that's how you answer a question.
 
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