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Malema is resorting to physically attacking ancyl members now, to stay in power...

Zuma berates 'alien' Malema
ANC probe could lead to disciplinary hearing
Delegates boo ANCYL leader at rowdy meeting

Zimbabwe Visit proves the turning point
Apr 10, 2010 10:00 PM | By PADDY HARPER, MOIPONE MALEFANE and FRANK MAPONYA

Julius Malema is on the ropes, with supporters of his ANC Youth League openly booing him in Limpopo and President Jacob Zuma saying he was likely to face an internal disciplinary hearing.

Police fired rubber bullets and used a water cannon to control youth league delegates at an elective conference in Malema's home province of Limpopo yesterday.

The gathering turned violent after Malema tried to take control of the meeting and ensure the election of his preferred candidate. Incumbent chairman Lehlogonolo Masoga is being challenged by Frans Moswane, who has Malema's backing.

One delegate was taken away by ambulance, apparently after being hit by a rubber bullet.

Earlier yesterday, Malema waded into a crowd that was singing in support of Masoga. Witnesses said he picked up a plastic chair and appeared to be about to throw it at a delegate when his bodyguards restrained him.

Limpopo premier Cassel Mathale, who arrived in Louis Trichardt in the same car as Malema, tried to intervene when Malema was booed, but delegates shouted Mathale down, telling him he was corrupt.

The police were then called and supporters of Moswane remained in the hall when police arrived.

Witnesses claim police did not fire at anyone wearing T-shirts with a picture of Malema.


The youth league elective conference is important for Malema because he hails from Limpopo. Failure to retain control of his home province could signal the beginning of the end for Malema in the build up to the youth league's conference next year, where his deputy, Andile Lungisa, is set to challenge him.

Zuma called a rare media conference in Durban to address the controversies involving Malema, including his intervention in the Zimbabwe talks, his comments on the murder of AWB leader Eugene Terre Blanche, his verbal abuse of a BBC reporter and his defiance of the ANC leadership's instruction to stop singing the "Shoot the Boer" song.

Describing the conduct of Malema and the youth league as "alien to the ANC", Zuma said Malema's defiance of the High Court ban on the phrase "dabul' ibhunu" amounted to "undermining the leadership of the ANC and that cannot be accepted".

"When the ANC has made such a statement, it is totally out of order for us to continue as if such a statement was not made. Certainly there must be consequences for such behaviour," Zuma said.

Yet Malema supporters at the Limpopo meeting had thumbed their noses at the party leadership, wearing T-shirts with half the banned phrase - "dubula".

But Zuma reminded Malema at his news conference that the youth league was not an independent organisation and therefore subject to the policies and discipline of the ANC.

Zuma reiterated his government's commitment to the global political agreement in Zimbabwe. In a response to Malema's promise after visiting Zimbabwe that the ANC would support President Robert Mugabe in the country's next election, Zuma said: "We cannot and will not side with any one of the parties to the exclusion of the others."

Senior ANC members said it was Malema's visit to Zimbabwe and his subsequent comments that had forced Zuma's hand. They said members of the negotiating team trying to bring the rival parties in Zimbabwe together had appealed to Zuma to rein in Malema.

Zuma's berating of Malema comes after weeks of mounting pressure inside and outside the ruling party to publicly censure the youth league leader. Zuma had repeatedly defended Malema in the past, describing him as a "future leader" of the ANC and attributing his behaviour to his youth.

Zuma said the ANC would now hold an internal investigation into Malema's actions and utterances to ascertain if he should face disciplinary action for defying decisions of its national executive committee (NEC) meeting last month.

"The appropriate ANC structures will assess whether the ANCYL president has crossed this line. If he is found to have done so, the ANC will institute its own processes," Zuma said.

The president's intervention comes on the heels of a formal ANC statement on Friday condemning Malema's verbal attack on BBC reporter Jonah Fisher - at a news conference he called him a "bastard" and a "bloody agent" - and his statements on Zimbabwe.

Malema has also engaged in constant slanging matches with Cosatu, the SACP, the YCL and other ANC leaders.

Zuma said Malema faces potential censure over four sets of issues:
Defying the High Court ruling banning the singing of the struggle song "Dabul' ibhunu";
Defying the NEC ruling on public commentary and behaviour of ANC members and leaders;
Interfering in and undermining the Zimbabwe peace process by siding with one of the protagonists (Zanu-PF) and verbally attacking the MDC; and
Verbal attacks on journalists.

Zuma declined to provide further details, saying the ANC had its own procedures which would unfold "once the relevant structures are satisfied that there has been a crossing of the line. The organisation will deal with these matters internally as it deems fit."

Zuma said he had spoken to Malema by telephone after the BBC incident, but did not go into detail.

Zuma added that the NEC meeting last month had "spoken out strongly" about the need to respect the rules of political engagement.

"As the organisation's leadership we we're drawing the line and there would be consequences for anyone who crosses that line," Zuma said.

Zuma called Malema's treatment of Fisher - which was shown on television around the world - "regrettable and unacceptable, regardless of any alleged provocation on his part".

While there would be differences between the media and other sectors of society, there were appropriate means of taking up issues over reporting.

Zuma said the ANC had called on its members not to sing "Shoot the boer" while the outcome of the party's appeal against the court ruling was being conducted.

"There are procedures that one should follow to challenge court decisions. Defiance of these procedures should not be tolerated. It would make a mockery of our judicial system," Zuma said.

He said he had not received a formal complaint from the MDC about Malema's conduct thus far, but Zuma said leaders should "think before they speak, as their utterances have wider implications for the country".

In Limpopo, Malema was scheduled to open the elective conference and give a political overview, but he tried to take over the responsibility of the local chairman and read out the credentials. Delegates booed him and shouted: "No, no no; this is not your responsibility."

The start of the conference was delayed by disputes over the registration process and the Malema faction's attempt to disqualify some branches.

"The way Malema behaved today clearly indicates that he does not tolerate challenges. It is high time that action must be taken against him," said one delegate.

Malema and his entourage left shortly after the scuffle and went into the conference hall, from which the media had been barred.

Malema is also backing another of his close allies, Jacob Lebogo, to become provincial secretary.

Zuma's spokesman, Zizi Kodwa, was unable to comment on the Limpopo incident.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article397293.ece/Zuma-berates-alien-Malema

New leadership was elected at the ANC Youth League provincial congress in Limpopo on Saturday evening, a spokesperson said.

Frans Moswane was elected the new chairperson uncontested and was due to make his first public address at the closing of the conference in Makhado on Sunday, said spokesperson Floyd Shivambu.

Earlier, he denied media reports of altercations and chairs being thrown, saying people were portraying the league as an organisation at war with itself.

The SABC reported that there was a stand-off at the conference between members of Mkhontho Wesizwe Military Veteran Association and a private security company that had been hired.

"The ANCYL national leadership has taken over administration and facilitation of the provincial congress and [we] will make sure it concludes its business and objectives before the delegates return to their homes," said Shivambu. He said it would maintain its promise of peaceful and productive gatherings.

"After [a] decisive and successful intervention by the national leadership, the provincial congress was able to continue without disruption and a new leadership collective elected." - Sapa

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=nw20100410210246235C512032
 
On the road to nowhere... This is from 2 years ago...

ANC youth league: A chilling glimpse into our political future
Posted: April 6th, 2008 | By Ray Hartley

THE chickens of Polokwane are returning home to roost and its an awfully messy little nest that they’re building.

When it eventually got under way three or four days late, the ANC Youth League’s conference at the University of the Free State degenerated into a drunken display of factionalism and macho politics.
The youth league leadership were quite happy to boo and jeer President Thabo Mbeki, so they should not have been surprised when they were treated in the same way by their impressionable members.

Speakers have been jeered, bottles have been lobbed across the hall, no discussion has taken place on policy and several days late, voting finally began for the leadership yesterday.
More alarming was the fact that the youth appeared more interested in drinking and partying than meeting to discuss the heady questions facing the nation.

Some went so far as to tell our reporting staff yesterday that they were planning to burn down the technikon campus because they were “bored”.

Polokwane entrenched the politics of populism and personality cults and this culture is finding ready purchase in the ANC’s youth league.

The fact is that once the personalities contesting leadership positions eclipse questions of what they stand for or how they might offer leadership, political decay is inevitable.
The decay must grow exponentially as the populists placed in high office are dependent on beerhall politics to stay in power.

The ANC’s Youth League is nothing but a crystal ball into a political future which promises thuggery instead of considered debate.

Is there a youth leader who can stand up to this tide and win enough support to rise to the top? Apparently not.


http://blogs.timeslive.co.za/hartle...a-chilling-glimpse-into-our-political-future/
 
Wait, how is it possible that he (new Malema-backed Limpopo leader) was elected unchallenged when there was clearly a challenger with supporters at the conference?

Malema obviously got his way banning the opposing branches, a look at what we're in store for with Malema in any kind of power. I'd still love for him to explain this though.
 
If you only have a hammer then everything starts looking like a nail. Hence violence is the answer to everything.
 
Maybe the media will start talking about something other than Julius? :mad: I do long for that time.
 
Maybe the media will start talking about something other than Julius? :mad: I do long for that time.

Ostrich mentality.
If you do not hear about it, it will go away.

I for one need to hear EVERYTHING that little rubbish does, so that we can know about it - and be vocal as to our feelings.
Or would you just prefer no news until such time the goose-steppers drag you from your house ( or install you in a dubula's - depending on your race )?


Anyways, back to the OP.
So these supported have T-shirts that had to have been manufactured in the last three days or so - surely madbucket would have handed out the "originals" before he got a tongue-lashing?
This "person" is well on his way to leading the country - and if he does get tossed out, the civil war we are heading towards may just be between his supporters and the new ANCYL president.
 
Wait, how is it possible that he (new Malema-backed Limpopo leader) was elected unchallenged when there was clearly a challenger with supporters at the conference?

Malema obviously got his way banning the opposing branches, a look at what we're in store for with Malema in any kind of power. I'd still love for him to explain this though.

Simple, they chased the other supporters away by using there police force to intimidate ad bully them. So obviously he was uncontested, this is democracy, Africa style. Either you crook the count, chase the opposition away or intimidate them into voting your way.
 
Simple, they chased the other supporters away by using there police force to intimidate ad bully them. So obviously he was uncontested, this is democracy, Africa style. Either you crook the count, chase the opposition away or intimidate them into voting your way.

ZANU! ZANU! ZANU!

Oink!

Elections in ZA are set to get more and more free and fair.
 
This is priceless... for everything else there is mastercard.

I have my popcorn ready. This will show what Zuma is willing to do... Who's the daddy in other words.
 
Ostrich mentality.
If you do not hear about it, it will go away.

I for one need to hear EVERYTHING that little rubbish does, so that we can know about it - and be vocal as to our feelings.
Or would you just prefer no news until such time the goose-steppers drag you from your house ( or install you in a dubula's - depending on your race )?


Anyways, back to the OP.
So these supported have T-shirts that had to have been manufactured in the last three days or so - surely madbucket would have handed out the "originals" before he got a tongue-lashing?
This "person" is well on his way to leading the country - and if he does get tossed out, the civil war we are heading towards may just be between his supporters and the new ANCYL president.

Big Plus to that.
 
Its our humor, laughter, braaing, beer, and partying culture that brings us together. lets show dem we can build a better South Africa You Tube find: [video=youtube;4jN33F-A7JY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jN33F-A7JY[/video]
 
Ostrich mentality.
If you do not hear about it, it will go away.

While on the topic of repeat posts and stuck records.......



The media are welcome to flog this dead horse for as long as they want. They are after all chasing earnings and profits. I don't buy news papers, nor spend every second searching the net for bad news stories to share, so they have no desire to pander to my needs. They know what sells their papers.

The thing that annoys me is those who feel compelled to repost every single story that they find online here on these forums in an effort to "prove" their point. They usually add very little commentary of their own and merely highlight a few sentences in the original article. I realise they are not going to go away but while everyone seems to be feeling entitled to target those who prefer to think for themselves, I thought I'd provide my view.

When does the civil war start again?
 
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Mr TB and Mr Malema would make a nice couple. what is it with savagery and this nation

stop being flippin idiots people

i declare a crusade on idiots

*mega sigh glitch rant of the day*
 
JoeKing, all the posts I read show your same post? spamming much?

My bad sorry. I dont know what happened last night. i had all these posts open in different tabs when i posted a reply nothing happened and so i tried hitting the button again couple of times. and eventually got a message saying server timeout. we are upgrading the forum please try again in an hour. i only saw now that i ended up posting on a whole lot of forums.

I apologise. i just wanted to share this video from you tube. hope you guys enjoy it. Have a laugh on me

We are one strong and diverse nation. we dont need to divide and go backwards. lets make fun of the malemas and 'popcorn political parties' and stand together as a strong nation. id rather we divide ourselves into the people of south africa vs the politicians and not racially
 
While on the topic of repeat posts and stuck records.......



The media are welcome to flog this dead horse for as long as they want. They are after all chasing earnings and profits. I don't buy news papers, nor spend every second searching the net for bad news stories to share, so they have no desire to pander to my needs. They know what sells their papers.

The thing that annoys me is those who feel compelled to repost every single story that they find online here on these forums in an effort to "prove" their point. They usually add very little commentary of their own and merely highlight a few sentences in the original article. I realise they are not going to go away but while everyone seems to be feeling entitled to target those who prefer to think for themselves, I thought I'd provide my view.

When does the civil war start again?

Lance, I love how you seem to be so confident that you alone or maybe you and your group of friend (rooster) are so right and everyone else is just a bunch of paranoid warmongers. Do you guys kick back there at Camelot with Merlin's rose tinted crystal ball and watch every season of That Rainbow Show before it comes out? Then, knowingly, you gloat and scoff at us simpletons who need to rely on primitive "news reports"?

Must be good to know that should things ever really go pear-shaped, you can simply answer your door with confidence, stare out into the night at the dark angry horde on your doorstep and exclaim "Be calm my brothers, for it is I, Lancelot! You know, from the internet?"
 
You mean every little story like this Lance..?

Cops block EC council meeting
by Jan Hennop on 13-04-2010

Police have blocked the public as well as journalists from attending a council meeting at the volatile Ingquza Hill Municipality, previous scene of bloody infights between ruling party members, which drew national attention and top ANC intervention, reported Lubabalo Ngcukana.

The council’s first meeting – supposedly open to the public and press – is being held behind closed doors as Local Government and Traditional Affairs MEC Sicelo Gqobana was trying to diffuse tensions between two rival factions.

Tensions between ANC councillors came to a head in August last year when the two groups pulled knives at a council meeting and eight councillors were injured.

The infight was seen as so serious that ANC National Executive Committee member Derek Hanekom was sent to investigate.

During that meeting, Hanekom had to flee when shots were fired.

http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/dispatchnow/2010/04/13/cops-block-ec-council-meeting/

I like to read about every move these murderous parasites make, even if you don't. Seems they and you, share thoughts, that the country need not know, what kind of people they are...

Merely ignore the articles/threads that might pollute your thoughts.
 
Simple, they chased the other supporters away by using there police force to intimidate ad bully them. So obviously he was uncontested, this is democracy, Africa style. Either you crook the count, chase the opposition away or intimidate them into voting your way.

Is that what Malema went for to ZIM, A crash course on how to win elections by getting RID of the opposition, by FORCE!

Forget about Sir Lancelot the MyBB resident ostrich, he has to defend his SA stand he held for so long and as everything is going pear-shape and the way it was predicted looong ago, he is very disappointed, disillusioned and just groping for....... straws (Alla his Ruaan Pienaar saga!), hoping the reality of SA life will go away and even maybe improve. All in vain of course as Malema and the ANC are doing what he prefers to happen.
 
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