Man killed in horror pitbull attack

Pitbull said:
The breeding. The normal ones are the ones I have. Then you get the American Pitbull x Staffordshire cross (AmStaff) and the Bully (Which is also a kind of Staffie x Pitbull cross.)

The normal Pitbulls have longer legs as to where the AmStaff and the Bully are being bred to be short and bulk.

What the actual difference is with regard to temperament and the likes I honestly don't know. But all 3 are classified as Pitbulls in layman's terms
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Ok thanks, reason I asked is the neighbours dog is rather hyper and is constantly tearing up things and growling to itself, where as A mate of mines dog is a brown pitbull and just lounges around all day, I must add though he takes the dog out regularly on the beach so it gets plenty of exercise.
 
Fudzy said:
Who seem to kill the most people though? Pitbulls and Rhodesian Ridgebacks seem to be the nastier ones, you never hear of somebody being mauled to death by Maltese poodles.
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Unlike Pitbulls, I have NEVER heard of a Ridgeback harming anyone in its immediate family circle. My parents owned 6 different Ridgies, from before I was born until I was age 20, and I never felt anything but safe with them, despite their size (and clumsiness... they used to wag their tails against the wall so hard they would bleed... they never seemed to notice though).

But again I guess it comes down to how you raise any dogs. Treat them as loved and respected pets and they will love and respect you back. Treat them like spoiled children or nothing more than violent killers and they will respond in kind.

As others have said, irresponsible owners are the issue here. Bad parents raise bad children, bad owners raise bad pets. The cause needs to be addressed so that the effect will not occur.
 
Speaking generally here. These large dogs are very friendly and protective of their owners. The owners and family circle see this and then say that the dog is friendly and wouldn't hurt a fly.
But to anyone outside the circle the dog can be a danger very quickly. That's the issue many people are raising
 
The_Assimilator said:
Unlike Pitbulls, I have NEVER heard of a Ridgeback harming anyone in its immediate family circle. My parents owned 6 different Ridgies, from before I was born until I was age 20, and I never felt anything but safe with them, despite their size (and clumsiness... they used to wag their tails against the wall so hard they would bleed... they never seemed to notice though).

But again I guess it comes down to how you raise any dogs. Treat them as loved and respected pets and they will love and respect you back. Treat them like spoiled children or nothing more than violent killers and they will respond in kind.

As others have said, irresponsible owners are the issue here. Bad parents raise bad children, bad owners raise bad pets. The cause needs to be addressed so that the effect will not occur.
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Sorry, I don't agree. With pitbulls it has happened that even the trained ones with the so called "good owner" bite, attack and kill.
But I must agree with Pitbull on this statement:
I do believe though that Pitbulls do require a special type of owner
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you must be a "special person" to own a dog like this..........a special kind of crazy not to see and recognize the fact that these dogs you can't be compare to others. Crazy not to see how unpredictable they are. The one father was with his kid, just looked away for a second and his "gentle pitbull" mauled his kid.

I have a boxer, my 3rd one. And I can say with ease, that my kids will not get mauled by him.
 
Splinter said:
..... Although cruel or vicious treatment of any dog can turn them into rabid attack dogs. Same goes for human beings I reckon.

The smaller breeds are often more aggressive and bite a lot more than the larger ones.
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Re - Same goes for human beings
Indoctrination from birth? That's why there are so many suicide bombers and ISIS murderers

Re - smaller breeds are often more aggressive
Spaniels have the reputation of being very snappy but I have had about 15 rescue ones and every one was a gentle loving dog including one who is permanently crippled as a result of abuse as a baby
 
Yeah yeah, we get the owners are the problem. We need solutions. Its not like we even have dog licenses anymore. I think there was something like that once.
 
supersunbird said:
Yeah yeah, we get the owners are the problem. We need solutions. Its not like we even have dog licenses anymore. I think there was something like that once.
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Back then it was just a tax not really any control. Similar to bicycle tax and radio tax.
 
My neighbours pitbull used to jump a 12 feet wall.

BTW, have you seen the "Fluffy toy killed in horror pitbull attack" on Youtube? Seems to be a parody of this event.
 
I own a cross staffie/Jack Russel who when I got him was owned by people who shouldn't own dogs. He used to jump for your throat if he didn't know you, kill cats and other dogs. I took him over as for some reason every time I visited he would sit by me placid and relaxed so one day they were going to put him down and I just told them no he's coming with me. 7 years later and he is socially good, plays with my son hasn't killed anything besides frogs and is extremely loyal.
Moral of the story it's owners who need training with the dogs. Also maltese and poodles are two different breeds, the maltese is the annoying yapper while the poodle is noble and generally well behaved.
 
I had one of these psychos..

I spent a fortune in time and money on that dog.

One morning I woke up to it sitting on the edge of my bed growling while staring straight at me. From that day I let that dog sleep outside and a few days later it either got stolen or ran away.

Lets just say I didn't bother trying to find it.

People seem to forget these things were bred for fighting...
 
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beans100 said:
With pitbulls you can't do anything else, but stereotype. This dog is what it is.
I still can't get myself to believe that pitbulls is a very popular dog, so it's difficult for me to see how your ratios work. Accept if you're putting all kinds of terriers under the Pitbull name. I see a lot of Steffies and American Stafordshire terriers in my neighborhood. Don't think they can be called Pitbulls though.....lot of people confuse the lot.
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You're proving just how IGNORANT you are.

An Am Staff = A Pitbull.

They simply changed the name to get around laws that prohibit you owning Pitbulls in certain states.

As an example:

http://www.pbrc.net/faq.html

"These breeds are essentially the same dogs but have been bred for different purposes and/or size standards since the mid 1930's. Some are even dual registered (i.e., registered as an American Pit Bull Terrier with the UKC and as an American Staffordshire Terrier with the AKC)."
 
jsheed_sa said:
You're proving just how IGNORANT you are.

An Am Staff = A Pitbull.

They simply changed the name to get around laws that prohibit you owning Pitbulls in certain states.

As an example:

http://www.pbrc.net/faq.html

"These breeds are essentially the same dogs but have been bred for different purposes and/or size standards since the mid 1930's. Some are even dual registered (i.e., registered as an American Pit Bull Terrier with the UKC and as an American Staffordshire Terrier with the AKC)."
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No, it shows how gullible you are. They are 2 different dogs, with two different temperaments. If I say Pit Bull and I believe the media too, they talk about the American Pit Bull terrier. Or do you think the media is using the term Pit bull to generalize. If so, then they might as well just say a dog mauled someone and get it over with.
 
Such a sad story. In a few years I'll be getting a blue nose pitbull. All because of Cesar Milan ( Dog Whisperer). Watching this show made me more appreciative of pitbulls and dogs in general.
 
beans100 said:
No, it shows how gullible you are. They are 2 different dogs, with two different temperaments. If I say Pit Bull and I believe the media too, they talk about the American Pit Bull terrier. Or do you think the media is using the term Pit bull to generalize. If so, then they might as well just say a dog mauled someone and get it over with.
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They definitely are using the term Pitbull - in order to generalize.

A Pitbull is not a breed but rather a collection of dogs that fall under its banner. This can include an English Staffordshire Terrier and an American Pitbull / Amstaff, amongst others.

The American Pitubll / Amstaff is the same bloody dog, as you can have your dog certified as one or the other or BOTH at the kennel societies.

The AKC has classified the breed as an American Staffordshire Terrier, while the UKC has classified the breed as an American Pitbull Terrier. This is to get around legislation prohibiting you owning an American Pitbull in some states.

You clearly don't own one, don't know their temperaments are talking out of extreme ignorance and prejudice. I'm more than happy to support my argument with facts, you however aren't even providing any supporting data to back up your claims.

Ignorance at its best.
 
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