TelkomUseless
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exactly. The anc told them "taxis will be exempted". But meantime everything else will increase, impacting the poor...
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[May 2013..Dec 2013] The Gauteng E-tolling Thread
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exactly. The anc told them "taxis will be exempted". But meantime everything else will increase, impacting the poor...
daveza
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Has this actually been confirmed by Sanral ?
How do they intend to implement the exception ?
Except for taxis to be exempt, they will need to register as taxis. And when that happens, they will get taxed.
saksakgp
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How will they be taxed?
daveza
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Does Sanral have a current database of every single taxi in the country ?
LazyLion
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Toll Roads a necessity: Martins
The envisaged national transport master plan will include proposals for tolling South African roads, Transport Minister Ben Martin said on Tuesday.
Introducing debate on the transport budget vote in the National Assembly, Martins said it was impossible for the fiscus to fund the road infrastrucutre backlog.
"The department is in the process of finalising the national transport master plan (Natmap) before it is submitted to Cabinet," he said.
The Natmap is a long-term plan to roll out infrastructure for the country's social and economic development.
"The alignment between the Natmap and the National Development Plan, which sets out critical national policy goals to be achieved by 2030, includes implementing the user pay principle in a manner that does not have a crushing effect on the working class and the poor," said Martins.
Democratic Alliance MP Ian Ollis dismissed Martins' assertions on the need for e-tolls, saying funding models for a number of key infrastructure investments was "hopelessly wrong".
"The Sanral misleads us by stating that the road maintenance backlog is about R149 billion, which means that we have to have many new toll roads across the country," Ollis said.
He said the SA National Roads Agency Ltd's arguments did not make sense.
"If you look at the annual budget documents supplied by Treasury and the annual audits supplied by the auditor-general, you can clearly see that between 2003 and 2008, an average of more than R21bn was brought in from the fuel levy (per year), while only an average of R7.4bn was spent on the roads," Ollis said.
He questioned what happened to the rest of the money.
"If you approximate R14bn per annum from 1994, until around 2010, that gives an approximate R238 billion of fuel levy money misused by this government... government spent the money and now pretends that we have to pay tolls to afford our roads," said Ollis.
Sanral's budget for the 2013/14 year was R3.4bn for current operations and R7bn for capital infrastructure.
The roads agency is responsible for maintenance of around 17,000 kilometres of the country's roads network of 750,000 km.
Around 17 percent of the road network is tolled.
The introduction of toll roads in Gauteng had sparked widespread protests with even ANC alliance partner the Congress of SA Trade Unions opposing the move.
Last week, the City of Cape Town won a high court bid for an interim interdict against the proposed tolling of the N2 and N1 highways, pending a review of Sanral's decision to implement the project.
Source : Sapa /cp/jk/jje/aa
Date : 28 May 2013 16:06
The envisaged national transport master plan will include proposals for tolling South African roads, Transport Minister Ben Martin said on Tuesday.
Introducing debate on the transport budget vote in the National Assembly, Martins said it was impossible for the fiscus to fund the road infrastrucutre backlog.
"The department is in the process of finalising the national transport master plan (Natmap) before it is submitted to Cabinet," he said.
The Natmap is a long-term plan to roll out infrastructure for the country's social and economic development.
"The alignment between the Natmap and the National Development Plan, which sets out critical national policy goals to be achieved by 2030, includes implementing the user pay principle in a manner that does not have a crushing effect on the working class and the poor," said Martins.
Democratic Alliance MP Ian Ollis dismissed Martins' assertions on the need for e-tolls, saying funding models for a number of key infrastructure investments was "hopelessly wrong".
"The Sanral misleads us by stating that the road maintenance backlog is about R149 billion, which means that we have to have many new toll roads across the country," Ollis said.
He said the SA National Roads Agency Ltd's arguments did not make sense.
"If you look at the annual budget documents supplied by Treasury and the annual audits supplied by the auditor-general, you can clearly see that between 2003 and 2008, an average of more than R21bn was brought in from the fuel levy (per year), while only an average of R7.4bn was spent on the roads," Ollis said.
He questioned what happened to the rest of the money.
"If you approximate R14bn per annum from 1994, until around 2010, that gives an approximate R238 billion of fuel levy money misused by this government... government spent the money and now pretends that we have to pay tolls to afford our roads," said Ollis.
Sanral's budget for the 2013/14 year was R3.4bn for current operations and R7bn for capital infrastructure.
The roads agency is responsible for maintenance of around 17,000 kilometres of the country's roads network of 750,000 km.
Around 17 percent of the road network is tolled.
The introduction of toll roads in Gauteng had sparked widespread protests with even ANC alliance partner the Congress of SA Trade Unions opposing the move.
Last week, the City of Cape Town won a high court bid for an interim interdict against the proposed tolling of the N2 and N1 highways, pending a review of Sanral's decision to implement the project.
Source : Sapa /cp/jk/jje/aa
Date : 28 May 2013 16:06
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
DA to appeal to Zuma on e-tolling
The DA will appeal in writing to President Jacob Zuma not to sign the controversial e-tolling bill into law.
"Furthermore, I will request that he establish a full-scale investigation into what alternatives exist to the e-tolling model, before the e-tolling programme is implemented and enforced," Democratic Alliance MP Ian Ollis said in a statement on Wednesday.
The Transport and Related Matters Amendment Bill was passed by the National Council of Provinces last week.
The measure amends the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) Act, and, once signed into law by Zuma, will allow Transport Minister Ben Martins to make regulations regarding e-tolling.
Ollis said a recent reply to a parliamentary question indicated that "the fuel levy was not considered at all by the government to pay for the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP), when the decision [to e-toll] was taken in 2008".
Further, discussions regarding ring-fencing funds in the Road Maintenance Fund for maintenance had "not been finalised or completed".
Read together, these replies "revealed that the government did not explore all options in finding alternative funding for the GFIP, and therefore could not possibly have opted for e-tolling on the basis of careful and in-depth consideration".
Source : Sapa /rod/jk/dd/th
Date : 29 May 2013 15:01
The DA will appeal in writing to President Jacob Zuma not to sign the controversial e-tolling bill into law.
"Furthermore, I will request that he establish a full-scale investigation into what alternatives exist to the e-tolling model, before the e-tolling programme is implemented and enforced," Democratic Alliance MP Ian Ollis said in a statement on Wednesday.
The Transport and Related Matters Amendment Bill was passed by the National Council of Provinces last week.
The measure amends the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) Act, and, once signed into law by Zuma, will allow Transport Minister Ben Martins to make regulations regarding e-tolling.
Ollis said a recent reply to a parliamentary question indicated that "the fuel levy was not considered at all by the government to pay for the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP), when the decision [to e-toll] was taken in 2008".
Further, discussions regarding ring-fencing funds in the Road Maintenance Fund for maintenance had "not been finalised or completed".
Read together, these replies "revealed that the government did not explore all options in finding alternative funding for the GFIP, and therefore could not possibly have opted for e-tolling on the basis of careful and in-depth consideration".
Source : Sapa /rod/jk/dd/th
Date : 29 May 2013 15:01
LazyLion
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Sorry, but that is a waste of time, and will probably only just spur Zuma on more to sign this bill.
He is obviously not approachable on issues for the good of society or the poor.
He is obviously not approachable on issues for the good of society or the poor.
Heisenborg
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Oh like Zoomer is gonna listen to the DA, anybody who thinks that is retarded
AlphaBravo
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My thoughts exactly. It is asif the government is just not listening to the people and doing their own thing anyway...the government for the people, by the people my @ss. Get rich quick while you can government.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Govt calls for submissions to the eToll bills - Respond Here!
SA Citizens, please share this! Govt calls for submissions to the eToll bills. OUTA has made it easy for citizens to respond, by setting up a summary page on the www.outa.co.za web site, with links to the respective authorities email boxes on each area of the proposed regulations and tariffs. We urge all SA Citizens - and in particular the Gauteng Road User - to get involved, and tell the Government what your views are about their eToll Tariffs, and other regulations. Then please pass this on to all you know. Click here: http://bit.ly/11d59G8
http://www.outa.co.za/site/comment-to-government-on-the-etoll-tarriffs-and-regulations/
If you need some information to include in your e-mail please see the following threads....
Please do not just copy and paste, but read through and change and make it your own.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/412714-50-Reasons-To-Avoid-The-E-Toll-System
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/483390-My-issues-with-e-tolling-laid-out-to-bare
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...-Toll-System?p=9256272&viewfull=1#post9256272
SA Citizens, please share this! Govt calls for submissions to the eToll bills. OUTA has made it easy for citizens to respond, by setting up a summary page on the www.outa.co.za web site, with links to the respective authorities email boxes on each area of the proposed regulations and tariffs. We urge all SA Citizens - and in particular the Gauteng Road User - to get involved, and tell the Government what your views are about their eToll Tariffs, and other regulations. Then please pass this on to all you know. Click here: http://bit.ly/11d59G8
http://www.outa.co.za/site/comment-to-government-on-the-etoll-tarriffs-and-regulations/
If you need some information to include in your e-mail please see the following threads....
Please do not just copy and paste, but read through and change and make it your own.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/412714-50-Reasons-To-Avoid-The-E-Toll-System
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/483390-My-issues-with-e-tolling-laid-out-to-bare
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...-Toll-System?p=9256272&viewfull=1#post9256272
Sinbad
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People who don't register.
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Fudzy
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I hope DJ... is still involved in this, it's sad that he isn't on here anymore.
Thingyyyyyy
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sent.
LazyLion
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COSATU E-tolling protests allowed by High Court
The High Court in Johannesburg on Thursday granted Cosatu permission to protest against e-tolling in Ekurhuleni, the trade union federation in Gauteng said.
The Congress of SA Trade Unions launched an urgent court application after the Ekurhuleni municipality and the SA Police Service denied its request to protest on Friday.
Last week, the Johannesburg Magistrate's Court dismissed Cosatu's application to protest on the city's highways after the Johannesburg metro police denied it permission.
Source : Sapa /gq/fg/th/dd
Date : 30 May 2013 16:12 OrigID : LP533192
The High Court in Johannesburg on Thursday granted Cosatu permission to protest against e-tolling in Ekurhuleni, the trade union federation in Gauteng said.
The Congress of SA Trade Unions launched an urgent court application after the Ekurhuleni municipality and the SA Police Service denied its request to protest on Friday.
Last week, the Johannesburg Magistrate's Court dismissed Cosatu's application to protest on the city's highways after the Johannesburg metro police denied it permission.
Source : Sapa /gq/fg/th/dd
Date : 30 May 2013 16:12 OrigID : LP533192
The MAGIC is AARTO, which SANRAL wants to use to force road users to pay tolls, is only enforceable in Jhb and Pta, and it isn't being done. Be that as it may, for a small consideration I will allow people to use my address in a different province to register their vehicles and so be able to ignore this nuisance
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Mila
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Done.
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