The best is that you can argue, if they only prosecute a few people and not all, that government is not applying the law without unfair discrimination.
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[May 2013..Dec 2013] The Gauteng E-tolling Thread
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The best is that you can argue, if they only prosecute a few people and not all, that government is not applying the law without unfair discrimination.
MagicDude4Eva
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So even if 1m people pay R500/pm this means that Sanral will collect 500m per month and after Kapsch has taken their share will have 100m p.m. or 1,2bn per year. I am not sure how anyone in the ANC or SANRAL could see this ever working, considering it will take more than a decade to pay off the current capex (never mind the ongoing opex). Still puzzled by this WTF-initiative.
What is there to be puzzled about? This project has already made a lot of people a lot of money.
LazyLion
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Visitors to be e-tolled
Cross-border visitors will also have to pay e-tolls, the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) said on Wednesday, after an announcement that e-tolling would be launched on December 3.
Neighbouring countries would be informed about electronic tolling, said Sanral CEO Nazir Alli in Pretoria.
"There would be cross-border collection. We prefer them to register as well," he said.
The agency said it would make sure toll tariffs were collected before vehicles left the country.
Alli said Gauteng motorists would pay double the toll tariffs without an e-tag and urged them to get one.
At least 707,000 e-tags had been issued so far.
Sanral said having an e-tag meant a discount of 48 percent on toll tariffs.
According to the agency's website toll calculator, a return trip from Lynwood in Pretoria to Soweto without an e-tag would cost R88.77. With an e-tag it would cost R45.92.
Alli said research carried out recently showed that on 201km of the highways, 84 percent of road users would pay less than R100 a month.
Transport Minister Dipuo Peters said tariffs had been cut from 66c/km to 30c/km for a light motor vehicles with an e-tag.
Peters said systems were in place to ensure the system functioned. She was confident Sanral was capable of this responsibility.
E-tolling would contribute to the fight against licence plate cloning and would reduce congestion, she said.
Alli said a debt collection process had been started and motorists would receive a bill every seven days. If they repeatedly failed to pay, a summons would be sent.
Motorists who did not register for e-tolls would get invoices and reminders.
He said people were under the impression that government vehicles were exempt from e-tolling.
"Government-owned vehicles are not exempted," he said.
Source : Sapa /mar/hdw/jk/ks
Date : 20 Nov 2013 14:17
Cross-border visitors will also have to pay e-tolls, the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) said on Wednesday, after an announcement that e-tolling would be launched on December 3.
Neighbouring countries would be informed about electronic tolling, said Sanral CEO Nazir Alli in Pretoria.
"There would be cross-border collection. We prefer them to register as well," he said.
The agency said it would make sure toll tariffs were collected before vehicles left the country.
Alli said Gauteng motorists would pay double the toll tariffs without an e-tag and urged them to get one.
At least 707,000 e-tags had been issued so far.
Sanral said having an e-tag meant a discount of 48 percent on toll tariffs.
According to the agency's website toll calculator, a return trip from Lynwood in Pretoria to Soweto without an e-tag would cost R88.77. With an e-tag it would cost R45.92.
Alli said research carried out recently showed that on 201km of the highways, 84 percent of road users would pay less than R100 a month.
Transport Minister Dipuo Peters said tariffs had been cut from 66c/km to 30c/km for a light motor vehicles with an e-tag.
Peters said systems were in place to ensure the system functioned. She was confident Sanral was capable of this responsibility.
E-tolling would contribute to the fight against licence plate cloning and would reduce congestion, she said.
Alli said a debt collection process had been started and motorists would receive a bill every seven days. If they repeatedly failed to pay, a summons would be sent.
Motorists who did not register for e-tolls would get invoices and reminders.
He said people were under the impression that government vehicles were exempt from e-tolling.
"Government-owned vehicles are not exempted," he said.
Source : Sapa /mar/hdw/jk/ks
Date : 20 Nov 2013 14:17
LazyLion
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I love how they just assume that other government departments will just automatically do their dirty work for them.
Mila
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So half of the traffic is just magically going to go poof away.
Sinbad
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Well yes, they expect people to avoid the freeways. Not that there are any alternative routes you can use.
Mila
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They want everybody to get an etag but they want half of the people to disappear... Sounds like eiskom. Don't use the power!! Oh hell we are loosing income lets charge more.
That's really not true. Lots of people have been expecting that for the last 19 years.
That's only if you pay within the completely ridiculous 7 day period. If you wait longer than 7 days it will probably be R120, and then after another 30 days R160.
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Interesting comment this…
Regarding my earlier post about it not making sense for SANRAL to issue summonses while you still have time to pay; could it be argued that multiple instances of incidental credit (e.g. using the freeway untagged each day of the week) constitutes repeated failure to pay?
With the large amount of capital to be covered, you’d expect that. But they are touting many discounts even for non-tagged people paying within 60 days of using the toll route.
Who is going to pay for the increase in the cost of foodstuffs when lorries use the toll roads? ... Just 'cos a person doesnt have a car doesnt mean the tolls wont affect them
LazyLion
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This is actually good advice. I would completely avoid the highways until after mid January when all businesses are back at work.
Sinbad
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Exactly my thinking.
Except, I have a feeling you're gonna yearn for some open road ......
That is exactly how it the bill is drafted. You have to pay within seven days to qualify for e-tag + 60% rate, thereafter you have up to 30 days to qualify for the next payment tier, then 30 days thereafter you are on the highest tier.
Except, I have a feeling you're gonna yearn for some open road ......
Would be far too tempting. I doubt I'll stay on the backroads for long...
TelkomUseless
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and they (anc) sold it to the masses as that.Taxi's are free (so government told them) and yet it will impact them too (food prices will increase).
It's funny how we were suppose to comment on e-tolls years ago, but the final prices were only revealed today. Surely the financial aspect is one of the most significant issues that the public would want to comment on. Just shows what's a farce this whole thing has been.
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