[May 2013..Dec 2013] The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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Humberto said:
I find it amusing that the ANC is so indignant at the e-toll billboards.

It was ultimately the ANC who took the decision to toll the N1.

The clowns at SANRAL keep telling us how the e-tolls are the greatest thing since sliced bread, how we're all going to save so much time every day commuting to work, how the N1 is going to be so much safer, etc.

So why are the ANC so upset that they are being credited with the implementation of the e-tolls?
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Because they are the brainless morons [-]running[/-]ruining this country and continent that are endangering the perceived intelligence of humanity, putting it at risk, and they know it!
 
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The chance of me buying SANRAL bonds is equal to the chance of me getting tagged. Both are nil.
 
E-Toll Billboards are Ours: DA

The billboards erected along Johannesburg's highways next to e-toll gantries were commissioned by the Democratic Alliance, the party said on Sunday.

"The billboards are ours," the DA's Gauteng premier candidate Mmusi Maimane said.

The billboards, visible along the N3 and N1 highways, poke fun at the African National Congress and its role in the electronic tolling saga. The message on them reads: "E-tolls. Proudly brought to you by the ANC."

Maimane said the message was "100 percent accurate" and it was difficult to see why the ANC was upset.

"E-tolls were conceived under the watch of an ANC minister, supported by an ANC executive in Gauteng, passed into law by an ANC majority Parliament, and signed, sealed and delivered by an ANC president."

Maimane said the ruling party had lodged complaints with the Advertising Standards Authority and Independent Electoral Commission.

"It is reported that the ANC has complained about the billboards... We say bring it on. We will defend our right to erect these billboards in any forum the ANC chooses."

ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu said he noted the DA's claims and would react at a later stage.


Source : Sapa /mom/th
Date : 06 Oct 2013 15:04
 
SAPA said:
ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu said he noted the DA's claims and would react at a later stage.
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Translation: ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu was completely gob-smacked and can only respond once the sting of the frozen fish that hit his face has worn off.
 
I think the ANC have scored an own goal with their reaction to the billboards.
 
The DA are being really clever. They're forcing the ANC to take a concrete position on etolls, that way any plans to use them for political gain are either scuppered or transparent...
 
The best comment so far on the billboards came from Marketing analyst Chris Moerdyk

Chris said it was ironic. "If the ANC were proud of e-tolls it would 'like the advert'."
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Lol :D
 
j4ck455 said:
Translation: ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu was completely gob-smacked and can only respond once the sting of the frozen fish that hit his face has worn off.
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That ^

IMO the ANC have no grounds on which to complain about these billboards. They just have to suck it up !
 
Brilliant move by the DA. The DA realize that the ANC may be planning to either implement directly after elections or scrap the tolls just before the election. By putting up the billboards they now force the ANC to say we are for or against the tolls right now. If they respond either way it will damage their election hopes. Pretty smart of the DA actually.
 
I think the ANC is so miffed about the billboards, because all along, e-tolls was touted as a "Government initiative" implemented by the South African National Roads Agency (SANRAL).

The fact that it was only an ANC approved project is now public knowledge and they can't hide behind the Government or SANRAL smoke screen anymore.

DA - Please deploy more billboards in ANC strongholds.
 
E-Tolling likely to start by end of year: Peters

E-tolling in Gauteng will most likely be implemented by the end of the year, Transport Minister Dipuo Peters said on Monday.

"Last week we finalised the regulations and this week we will be dealing with the tariff structure and starting the process to... publicise the tariff structure," she said at The New Age's business breakfast in Midrand.

The tariffs would be publicised for 30 days.

"After 30 days I'm sure it will take seven to 14 days to get the ball rolling."

The Supreme Court of Appeal reserved judgment late last month on a legal challenge to e-tolls by lobby group Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance.

Peters attributed the high cost to the technology which was being used.

"It's imported and we have to pay for it. Just like your cellphone, just like any other technology that we use," she said.

"As a transport sector we'd be very happy to say give us all the money that the government has and reduce the money for schools, reduce the money for building other social infrastructure, reduce the money for pensions for the aged, reduce the money for feeding children in schools, is that what South Africans want?"

She said the objective of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project was to decongest the road networks and if people did not want to pay they could use alternative routes.

"We have also created alternative routes to make sure that those who are unable to get onto the freeway, those you don't want to get onto the freeway, those who don't want to pay, can use the alternative routes."

Peters ruled out the suggestion that the fuel levy be increased instead, saying it would be unfair for the rest of the country to pay for Gauteng's roads.

"Somebody who is in Mbizana who does not even have a road to get to school, must pay for the Gauteng freeways... Do we want to exacerbate the inequalities in the country," she said.


Source : Sapa /gq/jk/jje
Date : 07 Oct 2013 10:29
 
"As a transport sector we'd be very happy to say give us all the money that the government has and reduce the money for schools, reduce the money for building other social infrastructure, reduce the money for pensions for the aged, reduce the money for feeding children in schools, is that what South Africans want?"
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No. Reduce wastage and corruption and incompetence.

**** you, dippy. Unfair to the rest of the country to pay for our roads? Then stop allocating tax revenue earned in Gauteng to other provinces too. ****.

"We have also created alternative routes to make sure that those who are unable to get onto the freeway, those you don't want to get onto the freeway, those who don't want to pay, can use the alternative routes."
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WHERE?!
 
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Garyvdh said:
"We have also created alternative routes to make sure that those who are unable to get onto the freeway, those you don't want to get onto the freeway, those who don't want to pay, can use the alternative routes."
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How long is his nose ???
 
E-toll has benefits: SANRAL

It is unfortunate that commentators are not looking at the benefits of e-tolling in Gauteng, SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) chief executive Nazir Ali said on Monday.

"If you do calculations in terms of the loss of production, the wear and tear to your car, vehicle operation costs which increase, the pollution we were creating... Once you take that into account the benefits far outweigh the tariffs publicised earlier this year," he said at The New Age's business breakfast in Midrand.

Ali said since President Jacob Zuma signed the bill providing for e-tolls the number of people who had bought e-tags had increased. A total of 600,000 e-toll tags were in circulation.

"South Africans are law abiding citizens. They will abide by the law and get tagged."

Ali said 83 percent of people would only be paying R100 a month for e-tolling and others had been exaggerating the numbers.

"Less than one percent of people will actually reach that R450 [maximum] a month."

Earlier, he said it was unfortunate that the Sanral was only known for the Gauteng e-toll project.

"Eighty-four percent of our business is non-toll; there is only 16 percent of our business which is a toll road portfolio. That toll road portfolio does make a large contribution to the well-being of our entire national road network."

Ali said 75 percent of freight in the country moved on those roads, which showed how important the network was.

"Can we for one moment just imagine that if we didn't have a good national road network, as to what would happen to the economy? Of course together with that goes the old issue about job creation, [and] the development of SMMEs [small, medium and micro enterprises]."

Sanral had 800 SMMEs looking after the country's entire road network, he said.


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Date : 07 Oct 2013 10:56
 
E-Tolls not SANRAL's only Project: Ali

It is unfortunate that the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) is only known for the Gauteng e-toll project, chief executive Nazir Ali said on Monday.

"Eighty-four percent of our business is non-toll; there is only 16 percent of our business which is a toll road portfolio," he said speaking at The New Age's business breakfast in Midrand.

"That toll road portfolio does make a large contribution to the well-being of our entire national road network."

Ali said 75 percent of freight in the country moved on those particular roads, which showed how important the network was.

"Can we for one moment just imagine that if we didn't have a good national road network, as to what would happen to the economy?

"Of course together with that goes the old issue about job creation, [and] the development of SMMEs [small, medium and micro enterprises]."

Sanral had 800 SMMEs looking after the entire road network in South Africa, he said.


Source : Sapa /gq/tk/jje/jk
Date : 07 Oct 2013 09:25
 
"If you do calculations in terms of the loss of production, the wear and tear to your car, vehicle operation costs which increase, the pollution we were creating... Once you take that into account the benefits far outweigh the tariffs publicised earlier this year," he said at The New Age's business breakfast in Midrand.
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And how the rubbery fck is etolling going to improve wear and tear, apart from restricting the roads to those who can afford the etolls? The middle class who can't afford the unfreeways will have even worse congestion, pollution, loss of productivity and wear and tear on the non-existant alternate routes.

You know, I'm beginning to understand why people assassinate politicians.
 
Same arguments (which have been disproven) over and over from SANRAL and DOT.
 
...chief executive Nazir Ali said on Monday....
"That toll road portfolio does make a large contribution to the well-being of our entire national road network."
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Yes chop ... please explain to us again what percentage of the e-toll collected is actually going to go towards maintenance of those roads.
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