[May 2013..Dec 2013] The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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One exception in e-toll reaction

There was only one exception to the misery with which the arrival of e-tolling on Gauteng highways was greeted on Wednesday.

This came from the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral), which described the development as good news.

"We now have certainty as to when tolling on the inner Gauteng highways can begin. Sanral can now service the debt it had incurred to upgrade these vital roads," CEO Nazir Alli said in a statement.

Others mostly bemoaned the announcement by Transport Minister Dipuo Peters in the morning that e-tolling would begin on December 3.

The Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) received the news "with anger", while the Democratic Alliance said this was a sad day for Gauteng and the country.

Alli said Sanral expected a smooth start to toll collection.

"It is important to note that of the more than 700,000km of roads in the country, only 19,704 are part of the national network and thus Sanral's responsibility.

"Of the latter, only 16 percent are tolled, some 3120km. Of the tolled roads, only 201km form part of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project.

"The figures are important to keep a proper perspective," he said.

Alli encouraged motorists to buy e-tags as it was "the right thing to do" and would qualify road users for cheaper rates.

Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) chairman Wayne Duvenage said the e-tolling system was doomed to fail. It was inefficient, irrational, and would enrich overseas companies at the expense of motorists.

Outa believed the most equitable way to pay for the maintenance of the highways would be through a fuel levy.

"We call on society to exercise moral courage and resist the system on the basis that there are far too many things wrong with e-tolling. The system will fail," he said.

A legal challenge to e-tolling by Outa was dismissed by the Supreme Court of Appeal last month. Outa announced on October 18 it did not have money to continue the legal fight against e-tolling. Outa maintained that Sanral and government did not conduct a proper public participation process.

Cosatu spokesman Patrick Craven said the trade union federation would not give up its fight against e-tolling.

"[Cosatu] reaffirms its continued total opposition to this attempt to privatise our public roads and force us to pay to travel on roads we have already paid for though taxes and the fuel levy."

He said motorists should refuse to buy e-tags, as there was "absolutely no legal obligation" to do so.

Cosatu has been a fervent opponent of e-tolling and held several "drive-slow" campaigns and marches to protest against the introduction of the tolls.

DA Gauteng premier candidate Mmusi Maimane said in a statement most Gauteng residents would eventually feel the impact of the tolls.

"Residents who are not regular road users will feel the pinch through increased food and living expenses. I encourage you to take this frustration to the ballot box next year and vote out the government that has enforced this system on an unwilling province."

Earlier this month, the DA and the Freedom Front Plus announced they would each bring high court applications to fight the constitutionality of the e-toll bill President Jacob Zuma signed in September.

AfriForum CEO Kalli Kriel said the civil rights organisation would not register its vehicles for e-tolling.

He said if enough motorists refused to register the system would become impractical, forcing Sanral to reconsider e-tolling.

"AfriForum will leave it up to every member of the public, with due consideration of the costs involved, to decide for themselves whether they want to join AfriForum in this civil protest action."

If the public accepted e-tolls on Gauteng's roads without protest, then government could launch similar projects without considering more cost-effective methods of paying for them.

Earlier on Wednesday, Peters said in Pretoria electronic tolling would contribute to the fight against licence plate cloning and reduce congestion.

She said government had made several concessions to minimise the financial burden on road users paying for the e-tolled road network.

"Sanral should be allowed to start collecting toll fees in order to begin to repay the debt incurred when the roads were upgraded," she told reporters in Pretoria.

"We cannot afford to continue to expose Sanral's portfolio to any further financial risks."


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Date : 20 Nov 2013 15:31
 
It's funny how we were suppose to comment on e-tolls years ago, but the final prices were only revealed today. Surely the financial aspect is one of the most significant issues that the public would want to comment on. Just shows what's a farce this whole thing has been.

And when we do comment, it all goes into file 13 anyway.
 
Going to be interesting to see what happens with the taxis - there is no way they will all have registered to be an exception.

And they are only an exception on their allowed routes - anywhere else and they have to pay.
 
Alli encouraged motorists to buy e-tags as it was "the right thing to do"...
Wasn't the spin for TV Licenses exactly the same? And a few years later we hear about R1bn unaccounted for.

I think this is the sound of history repeating itself.
 
****ers. They are using every emotive trick in the book on this one. Desperate much?
 
Something occurred to me this morning regarding annual increases in e-toll tariffs.
SANRAL can only increase the tariffs annually in line with CPI however there is nothing stopping them from removing the caps or reducing the discounts.
That can easily double an e-tag user's bill without touching the published tariffs.
 
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"It is important to note that of the more than 700,000km of roads in the country, only 19,704 are part of the national network and thus Sanral's responsibility.

"Of the latter, only 16 percent are tolled, some 3120km. Of the tolled roads, only 201km form part of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project.

"The figures are important to keep a proper perspective," he said.

The 0.02% of road that affects 100% of the country’s people and 100% of the country’s economy. How’s that for perspective scumbag?
 
I do not check this thread religiously .... has THIS been posted:

HOW TO LEGALLY NOT PAY FOR eTOLLS

So kids, by way of a public service announcement, here is a 100% legal, fully above board way to NOT pay e-tolls....

1) Do not buy an eTag.

2) After the first 4-6 weeks of passing through toll gantries, send SANRAL a registered letter, expressing your concern, that for the last 4- 6 weeks you have not received a payment request from them. You must state that you are COMPLETELY willing to pay the toll fees, but this cannot be carried out without a detailed invoice. Unreliable postal services could be to blame, so please would they send you your invoice by registered mail, to ensure you receive it. (This is a fully legal AARTO requirement for any letter of demand.)

3) Make a photocopy of your letter, get a COMMISSIONER OF OATHS to stamp the copy, and keep your registered mail receipt. Such a request could take months to be settled, and if you are fortunate, never at all due to the sheer volume of similar requests received. Should you finally receive a notification that a registered letter has arrived for you, take as long as possible to collect it. This method is based upon the fact that they do not use registered mail to send invoices. If one considers the past history of all traffic fines received, these all arrive by normal mail to prevent the high costs of registering letters.

4)Should SANRAL surprisingly, after a lengthy period, comply with (1) above, then send them a second CERTIFIED letter by registered post, requesting that they send you a photograph for every single gantry you have passed under for that month, proving that is was your car you that is being invoiced.( Perfectly legal and reasonable request from any motorist ). Such photographs obviously, you must request to also be sent by registered mail to ensure delivery. Also takes weeks to collect such registered mail, should it in the unlikely event, ever be posted. Explain that you have heard that certain motorists are using illegal false number plates and you therefore require the photographs to prove that it is definitely your cat that is being charged. Such a request could takes months to be settled, or if you are very fortunate, never. Consider the sheer volume of requests they should by now have received. If their system is not set up for such requests, which I am almost positive is the case. (Hope I am not wrong on this one) Can you imagine the difficulties and problem they will have, in trying to MANUALLY comply with the thousands upon thousands of similar requests received. To be really difficult, how about querying some of the less clear photographs taken at night. Even if they come back to you asserting that the photographs are in their opinion, all perfectly readable, further delays will have been successfully applied.

5) Should SANRAL try to speed up communications by requesting your e-mail or fax number, or send you SMS’s, or trying direct contact by phone, I have considered very simple ways of negating each of such requests. I am not mentioning any of these methods, as I want to keep this article 100% above board, and free of any questionable actions.

6)In the unlikely event that all the above somehow be resolved, than obviously pay, but only for that particular month under review.

7)Start the whole lengthy procedure all over again, 4-6 weeks after the termination of the second month’s toll fees due. Continue with the same, for every individual month that follows.

Shouldnt take long for the whole system to fall over, if just 10% of the drivers do this.....
 
No that's incorrect.Helen Has publicly stated that they may not be able to scrap it.

She may mean if the DA only wins Gauteng (and the Western Cape, one presumes).

But let's face it, as long as the sheeple continue voting for the ANC eTolls are here to stay.
 
She may mean if the DA only wins Gauteng (and the Western Cape, one presumes).

But let's face it, as long as the sheeple continue voting for the ANC eTolls are here to stay.

Complete agree there.
 
I do not check this thread religiously .... has THIS been posted:

That is predicated on SANRAL sending a registered letter which they are not obliged to. AARTO =/ Etolls.

There is no duty on SANRAL to ensure you receive an invoice. They are only obliged to post it to your last known address.
 
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